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Tough spot with the top or our range

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Tough spot with the top or our range

Blinds: $3.00/$6.00 (5 Players) UTG: $603.10
CO: $752.90 (Hero)
BN: $599.64
SB: $1338.09
BB: $214.50
Preflop ($9.00) Hero is CO with Q A
Hero raises to $15.00, BN folds, SB raises to $51.00, UTG folds, Hero calls $36.00
Flop ($108.00) Q 4 5
SB bets $54.00, Hero calls $54.00
Turn ($216.00) Q 4 5 5
SB bets $144.00, Hero calls $144.00
River ($504.00) Q 4 5 5 8
SB bets $504.00

vilain is a reg on anonymous tables; 0 info

so preflop, flop and turn is standart, but then villain shove on a SPR of 1! (you can notice he 1/2 then 2/3 and then pot)

i'm pretty sure we can exclude KQ of his range, so we loose versus KK (6), AA (3), 67s (4), A5s (2) ,maybe a 44 (3), and we tie versus AQ (6)
we win versus some flushes draws, and random bluffs, if he has these 15 combos of value he need at least 8 combos of bluffs for me to make a break even call...

i'm not sure every regs bluffs their flushes draws here 100%, and he needs AT LEAST As2s, As3s,AsKs, AsJs, AsTs, As9s KsJs, KsTs

i don't think i'm being exploited folding AQ here.

thoughts?

(i have A5s, 56s, 44, 55, 67s, maybe even 88 so i think i'm not so overfolding)

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Synapse 9 years, 5 months ago

He likely is over-bluffing here, given we block AA and QQ, so he might presume to have more value then he actually does. If we fold every AQ combo, we are definitely folding >50% range here. Given we don't block spades, I would call against a decent reg.

Synapse 9 years, 5 months ago

in constructing his betting range, he presumes he has full amt of combos of AQ, AA, QQ, since we block a big portion of his value range, he will naturally have too many bluffs.

MonK_Key 9 years, 5 months ago

Hi,

In my opinion, u are strugglin in situation with (un)balance-polarise range vs bluffcatch hands.

Here, if u have AQ, JJ or 88 it doesn't matter that much because u have a bluffcatcher vs nuts/air range so u need to find enough bluffs to make the call EV+.
U did the job...

But i think there's somethin wrong then... It means to find enough bluff here, he needs to 3 bet pf somethin around (Ax2x-AxKx, 6x7x,QQ+,AxKy) or even more, which are at least 84 combos.
If this range was linear, then u should consider a wider value range PF. (around 42 combos)
So callin3bet vs a wider 3bet range, i think is bad coz ur 4bet range has only AK,pp for value and will often be an exploitative 3bet/fold.

Flattin AK in position is good sometimes but not everytime, so im not sayin u played it bad. but u play it more as a bluffcatch hand than a polarise hand in that case. And i think ur callin range PF must be more arbritary than a standard play.

w/o info i think fold is the best play,
1) coz not sure he will 3bet+3barrel with that wide range PF
2) Playin Ace of spade as a bluff is really bad here coz it blocks a tons of bluffs
3) u always have a bluffcatch hand in Qx area + value range and fold equity didn't change much.

Hedge 9 years, 4 months ago

You said that "i have A5s, 56s, 44, 55, 67s, maybe even 88 so i think i'm not so overfolding". But all this hands isnt bluffcatchers. I think you need to have some bluffcathers here. And AQ is good enough, because you block some part of his value range and based on this balance bluffs/value in his range can be broken. At the same time you are not blocking his bluff range, obv if you have A spades here you should fold. So i agree with Synapse.

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