Tough spot with the top or our range
Posted by ilares
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Tough spot with the top or our range
Blinds: $3.00/$6.00 (5 Players)
UTG: $603.10
CO: $752.90 (Hero)
BN: $599.64
SB: $1338.09
BB: $214.50
CO: $752.90 (Hero)
BN: $599.64
SB: $1338.09
BB: $214.50
Preflop
($9.00)
Hero is CO with
Q
A
, , , ,
Flop
($108.00)
Q
4
5
,
Turn
($216.00)
Q
4
5
5
,
River
($504.00)
Q
4
5
5
8
vilain is a reg on anonymous tables; 0 info
so preflop, flop and turn is standart, but then villain shove on a SPR of 1! (you can notice he 1/2 then 2/3 and then pot)
i'm pretty sure we can exclude KQ of his range, so we loose versus KK (6), AA (3), 67s (4), A5s (2) ,maybe a 44 (3), and we tie versus AQ (6)
we win versus some flushes draws, and random bluffs, if he has these 15 combos of value he need at least 8 combos of bluffs for me to make a break even call...
i'm not sure every regs bluffs their flushes draws here 100%, and he needs AT LEAST As2s, As3s,AsKs, AsJs, AsTs, As9s KsJs, KsTs
i don't think i'm being exploited folding AQ here.
thoughts?
(i have A5s, 56s, 44, 55, 67s, maybe even 88 so i think i'm not so overfolding)
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He likely is over-bluffing here, given we block AA and QQ, so he might presume to have more value then he actually does. If we fold every AQ combo, we are definitely folding >50% range here. Given we don't block spades, I would call against a decent reg.
what makes you say that he is "likely overbluffing" here?
in constructing his betting range, he presumes he has full amt of combos of AQ, AA, QQ, since we block a big portion of his value range, he will naturally have too many bluffs.
Hi,
In my opinion, u are strugglin in situation with (un)balance-polarise range vs bluffcatch hands.
Here, if u have AQ, JJ or 88 it doesn't matter that much because u have a bluffcatcher vs nuts/air range so u need to find enough bluffs to make the call EV+.
U did the job...
But i think there's somethin wrong then... It means to find enough bluff here, he needs to 3 bet pf somethin around (Ax2x-AxKx, 6x7x,QQ+,AxKy) or even more, which are at least 84 combos.
If this range was linear, then u should consider a wider value range PF. (around 42 combos)
So callin3bet vs a wider 3bet range, i think is bad coz ur 4bet range has only AK,pp for value and will often be an exploitative 3bet/fold.
Flattin AK in position is good sometimes but not everytime, so im not sayin u played it bad. but u play it more as a bluffcatch hand than a polarise hand in that case. And i think ur callin range PF must be more arbritary than a standard play.
w/o info i think fold is the best play,
1) coz not sure he will 3bet+3barrel with that wide range PF
2) Playin Ace of spade as a bluff is really bad here coz it blocks a tons of bluffs
3) u always have a bluffcatch hand in Qx area + value range and fold equity didn't change much.
You said that "i have A5s, 56s, 44, 55, 67s, maybe even 88 so i think i'm not so overfolding". But all this hands isnt bluffcatchers. I think you need to have some bluffcathers here. And AQ is good enough, because you block some part of his value range and based on this balance bluffs/value in his range can be broken. At the same time you are not blocking his bluff range, obv if you have A spades here you should fold. So i agree with Synapse.
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