Thoughts?
Posted by vanity02
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Thoughts?
BN: $196.40
SB: $70.30 (Hero)
BB: $33.27
UTG: $177.36
HJ: $71.27
CO: $74.47
SB: $70.30 (Hero)
BB: $33.27
UTG: $177.36
HJ: $71.27
CO: $74.47
Preflop
($0.75)
(6 Players)
Hero was dealt
A
A
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO folds, BN raises to $1, Hero raises to $3.75, BB folds, BN calls $2.75
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO folds, BN raises to $1, Hero raises to $3.75, BB folds, BN calls $2.75
Flop
($8.25)
A
T
5
(2 Players)
Hero checks,
BN checks
Turn
($8.25)
A
T
5
7
(2 Players)
Hero bets $4.10,
BN calls $4.10
River
($16.45)
A
T
5
7
6
(2 Players)
Hero bets $11.42,
BN raises to $188.55, and is all in,
Hero calls $51.03, and is all in
Final Pot
Can I ever fold here vs an unknown?
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I think its fairly standard overall, but my thinking at the time was that this is a 3bet pot 89s only hand that crushes me in his range and there are only 4 combos vs other value hands, another factor is my flopx, turn and river sizing were all really weak and could easily induce a bluff
you should be betting the flop
Ya theres nothing std about this hand except for preflop and even then you sized the 3 bet poorly. I d be making it 4.5-5$ depending on how wide villains call on average in your games.
Not betting the flop is pretty sad. I don t see how you expect ~150bb to go in without doing the betting yourself. This isnt the sort of board where the avg villain is going to be like "oh snap he totally missed this and now I m going to unload and own him".
At least you bet the turn but again too small. 1/2 pot? seriously? make it 7$.
River is kinda gross especially as the spr is pretty deep and you ve done nothing to define villains range. Wouldnt be surprised to see 89 here a ton.
"Ya theres nothing std about this hand except for preflop and even then you sized the 3 bet poorly."
Sorry, but exactly this.
Guys, the BTN min-raised. 3.75x is not bad. I'd make it 4.
I'd bet the flop. It's very suspicious when you go into c/c mode and all of a sudden raise. Villians knows you can bet as a bluff here a lot, so he's going to peel plenty.
He's going to call with most pairs, some broadway draws, a few floats, Tx and the occasional case A.
As played, bet turn bigger. Too many draws.
Not folding this river.
"Guys, the BTN min-raised. 3.75x is not bad. I'd make it 4."
It´s 140bb.
He's still calling with suited connectors and small pairs to crack your aces, but if you make it smaller, he might 4-bet his value hands a little lighter and he can bluff more if he has garbage.
I don´t see how this makes sense? The deeper you are the less likely Villain should be to a) value-4bet lighter because it´s harder for us to bluff-ship and/or b) bluff more ...
dat turn bet too strong. you missed value on the flop so why are you missing out on value on the turn? you tried to get tricky and get a check raise in on the flop and when that fails you can either A) check again and go for the same plan on turn or B) bet 3/4 to full pot on turn. Betting half that pot on turn is just gross. soo many deceptive draws plus a lot of obvious ones. bet bigger if you are betting at all.
tough to fold river now..we were thinking on level 9 when villain was just playing abc, now we have to level ourselves into a call and lose. I dont see any other possible outcome.
I agree betting is best against fish and this isn't a board he's going to go hog wild on if you check. But if you're going to develop an oop checking range to defend enough checks, this is THE hand to throw into your ck/calling range....this may not be so applicable as it's a 3-bet pot as compared to a single raised pot though...but in theory, if you're going to ever check a strong hand, make it this.
what you can learn from this hand is fixing your sizing.
1.) 3bet bigger preflop. ---ESPECIALLY being deep and OOP.
2.) As played with the flop check, bet the turn bigger.
Do this with your whole range and dont just think in the framework of you having AA.
Also note that when you flop top set and decide to check there is a big difference between A72r and ATxr, the former is as dry as it gets the latter allows broadways (JQ/KQ) to hit random nut straights and more straight possibilities to arrive on turn cards if it gets checked thru.
its kind of nasty as played. but whether you should fold/call river, you may get different responses but imo it doesn't matter what you do.
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