Thin River Jam 100NL Ignition

Posted by Ryan

Posted by Ryan posted in Low Stakes

Posted 6 years, 3 months ago

Thin River Jam 100NL Ignition

First 2 orbits of session

Hero raise AdJh to 3bb UTG 6-Max
CO Calls 3bb and has 100BB

HU to flop
JdKc2s
Hero Checks
CO bets $3.75
Hero Calls

Turn Ah
Pot = $14.50

Hero Checks
CO Bets $5
Hero calls

River Ac
Pot = $24
Hero Checks
CO bets $20
Hero goes All-In for $81.65

Against an unkown, is this C/Jam too thin, or just fine?

There are no A2s Combos left for villain, and I assume villain 3Bets AK at some frequency, leaving him with less than 3 potential combos. If villain folds 22 or doesnt call preflop(think 22 mostly is flatted here however), then we are banking on him calling with JJ, another hand which he may 3bet pre or be able to fold on river. There is also QTs which will take this line, but again, should certainly fold to a jam.

Against a player I know to be a reg, I imagine C/jamming here is too thin because we really aren't being called by worse, but against an unknown, are we simply giving up too much by not going for thin here for the times we are up against a weak player who will have a hard time folding an absolute strength strong hand?

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Wallmonger 6 years, 3 months ago

I gotta reread the hand a few times in order to make sure we have the boat.
I don't know your defintion of thin, but shove your full house isn't thin at all. You are scared of 2 holdings that you block, but at the same time you don't count the times he got AT which is a hand he could have. Also QT is possible and for him is still a value bet OTR. You can have AT or AXsuited.

I think you ended up losing with JJ that's why you posted it :p
Unlucky, move on to the next hand

Ryan 6 years, 3 months ago

No. I think that a good player will be able to fold QT, 22, JJ, AQ, AT, recognizing people underbluff this situation, and will only continue the times he has AK. I think it is a thin situation against a good player. All in all, without information however, I think there are enough players who have a hard time folding boats/straights here that we can shove and it be okay.

Samu Patronen 6 years, 3 months ago

Hardly anyone is a good player. If you're not shoving this for value then you're absolutely projecting your own thought process onto other players way too much and you end up losing winrate-ruining amounts of value in similar situations.