Theory Question - building ranges
Posted by Felipe Boianovsky
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Felipe Boianovsky
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Theory Question - building ranges
I have a couple of questions about theory and how it should be put into practice.
1- Let`s say a villain opens MP with an 18% range and he folds to 3bets from MP oop 75%. It`s 200nl and he opens to 6. If I 3bet to 18, he has to fold 18 / [18+6+2+1] = 66% of the time for me to auto profit.
So if villain folds 75%, i`m auto profiting 3betting any two in a vacuum. But if I 3bet everytime he opens he`s gonna realise it and adjust.
How do I define the correct strategy to exploit him here ? How should I build my range ? Should I 3bet him with a 15% range ? 18% ? 3% value hands, 12% bluffs ? How do you come up with the best strategy here ? Sometimes I feel like I`m 3betting way too much, and they do start 4betting me more frequently and stuff. But sometimes I think I`m not exploiting them enough. So I want to know which exact frequency I should use so that they don`t auto adjust, but also that exploits them enough for folding so much to 3bets.
Is there a theoretical correct answer for this, or is it more intuitive since it`s exploitative play ?
2- If someone opens 2x on the button, they need the blinds to fold 58% of the time to auto profit with their steal. So my minimum defend percentage should be 42% (putting together my BB defend% and SB defend%) , is this correct ?
If I defend less then 42%, they are exploiting me, I am exploitable. In theory, their openning range shouldn`t metter, I should defend 42% to not be exploitable, right ?
But what if villain is opening 20% on the button ? Should I still defend my wideish range ? What if he opens 15% ?
What I can`t really understand is when I should worry about not being exploitable, and when to worry about exploiting villain. I have a really hard time working with exploitative play and theory optimal.
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You can 3b a perfect frequency, and your opponents can´t do more than play with an EV0 against u. For do this you have to know his 4bet should be working a 59% of the time. So.. How many hands could i 3bet him as a bluff without giving him that 59% of fold ?
First you have to definde your 5b shove range. Supposed this is QQ+ AK (2.5%). You have to do...
2.5 * ( 1 : 0,41 ) = 6.1
* .41 are the times that we are not folding
* 6.1 is our inexplotable range.
So it´s easy ! You know that 2.1% is your value 3bet range, so chose the hands that you want up to 6.1%
If you make changes to your 5b ship range, the inexplotable range changes too. In conclusion, as more hands you have in your 5bet ship range, more hands you can 3bet as a bluff.
Second topic:
You have to understand the difference when something is explotable, and if your opponents is really exploting that. If he is opening a 15%, he is not exploting that situation, and you dont´t need defend a 42%. You dont have to be worry of beeing explotable against someone who is not paying atention to that.
From what I could understand, you talked about beeing unexploitable at the "first topic". But my question was more about playing that situation exploitatively (exploiting him?), since he is not going to exploit my "unbalanced range" of 3bets, becouse of how High he is folding to 3bets.
So, like you said on your answer for "topic number two", I shouldn`t worry about being exploitable if someone is not paying atention to that.
So my question at the first topic is: If someone is not paying atention and exploiting my "unbalanced 3bet range" still folding too much to 3bets, and not 4betting enough, how should I build my Unbalanced range ? What proportion should I use ? Should I be 3betting 15% of hands, even if my value range is only 3% ?
Btw, what you said about having and unexploitable 3bet range I didn`t know those numbers, so thank you very much for that insight!
For example; (my comma button isn't working) if he's playing so tight that he's no getting in AQo; you should be flatting when you have AQ and have a very polarised range (maybe Ako+ QQ+) a widish call range and then bluff with that hands that aren't plus EV calls. Figuring out your bluff range here though is a case of bluffing as much as you can without him figuring out what you are doing and adjusting. ideally you would 3bet with every hand that wasn't a plus ev call or a value 3bet to make the most here but if you do that he will soon adjust and will no longer be explitable so you want to start out by bluffing with maybe 3x the amount of hands you are 3betting for value then add more if you feel you can get away with it. You don't really need to be worried about GTO here because in this situation you will be losing out on money by not playing exploitable yourself.
Yeah, my plan was pretty much that. But the main point I can`t be sure of is that "3x the of hands i`m 3betting for value". I can`t figure out how much I should actually be doing. Sometimes I think I do it to much, but i`m not sure.
But I think that the answer I wanted doesn`t really exists, becouse this is exploitative play, and is more intuitive based and not theoretical.
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