Theory Discussion: What to do against an opponent all too happy to be stolen from?
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Theory Discussion: What to do against an opponent all too happy to be stolen from?
Before we all jump up and yell "STEAL FROM THEM", let me elaborate on the question.
I am reasonably familiar with the idea of aiming to bluff at a frequency that makes our opponents call decision indifferent, but as I understand it, this in a macro sense is using our bluffing strategy to reinforce the profit of our value betting strategy.
However, what if we come across the proverbial post-flop super nit, a player who seems thrilled to be stolen from flop turn and river. Many times before I bet my 8 high no pair no draw my internal dialogue sounds something like "I guess I have to keep betting if he's always just going to fold, but there must be more to this spot than simply going well he folds 90% I don't see why I should not bluff anything in my range."
Often these players are the true bum hunters of the stakes (especially at zoom/rush I find), and seem to be quite happy only continuing with good value postflop. Going over how I'm doing against a few of these regs in my database its exactly as one would expect lots of medium pots and small pots going to hero by way of steal and close to even in big pots losing some 3rd barrels and winning some slowplays against them. Against other kinds of players the direction hero should curtail his macro strategy to try to influence / augment their observed naturally occurring leaks is more obvious (i.e. push them further in the direction they are already leaking), but against the guy already folding as much as we could possibly want him to fold, what should our strategic train of thought sound like?
How can I preserve the dynamic of him always folding to me?
How can I make sure I don't go overboard and ruin a good thing?
How can I make him so angry he turns into a station?
etc.
I've also been slowplaying almost if not all my value range against these guys, and there is 0 sophistication in this; all it is is when I look down at my middle set then I look at his stats saying he will fold if I bet at any point in the hand I opt to check lol. I would love to hear some insights from the game theory pros out there about what kinds of things we ought to be thinking about against these outliers. Thank you for your time.
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you dont want to use game theory vs someone you have a huge exploitative edge over, you use it against people you have no edge over. So toss GTO in the trash in these spots, and play max exploitatively. Obviously you dont want them to catch on, so sometimes you just have to choose to not punish them, I think the best way to keep that in balance is if it seems like you are getting in spots with them a whole bunch in a row, then ease up a bit, otherwise just keep on going on about your business of exploiting them
tyvm for response
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