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HJ: $10
CO: $100.08
BN: $25 (Hero)
SB: $27.85
BB: $15.70
UTG: $22.10
Preflop ($0.35) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt 7 9
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO folds, Hero raises to $0.50, SB calls $0.40, BB folds
Flop ($1.25) 7 K K (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks
Turn ($1.25) 7 K K Q (2 Players)
SB bets $0.62, Hero calls $0.62
River ($2.49) 7 K K Q 3 (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks
Final Pot
SB has J Q SB wins $2.37
Just a tester. I like this hand history uploader! Looks sexy and it's cool how I can add comments/reads. As played I think my call on turn is fine because he has all sorts of air he'll be stabbing once with.

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Damian Copeland 12 years, 3 months ago
you should just fold this pre, its a pretty shit hand to say the least. Even though you are the BTN, you arnt even ahead of the blinds range. So why even bother? Saying that as played, if you are stealing wide, bet the flop, or just c/f..

It makes no sense on calling the turn, he is only calling you with a better range pre, and you got lucky that the sb has played his hand horribly.. and facing a river bet you would have all kinds of trouble.. Save yourself a few bb, and they wil add up.. stop doing this and every 100 hands you get 5bb extra.. this is the difference between crushing, and breaking even..

:)
Parker Muir 12 years, 3 months ago
Hey Damian,

I'm going to have to disagree with a few things you said. 97o should actually be a standard open raise for anyone on the button. Both of the blinds still have ATC and thus you will be able to turn a profit through a combination of their preflop folds and your own postflop cbet/barreling opportunities.

The turn call is also standard against an unknown SB as he will likely be stabbing with plenty of draws and pure air hands after you check back the flop.
Damian Copeland 12 years, 3 months ago
not every 100 you get 5bb.. but every time this spot happens.. It may be every 500 hands.. but even then (will be more frequent than that) but you get an extra .01bb/100.. you are probably facing allot of BTN plays with bad hands like this though, and it all adds up..
Damian Copeland 12 years, 3 months ago
I'm still pretty certain that if you raise this and get called you are almost always just giving up, given the fact that they are randoms, I dont think you can say its 'wrong' to fold. You have very few decent flops to continue on, and turn and river cards and just making your hand worse.. Even in a sb/bb range that is quiet LAG, you aren't doing great.
Even if i was to open just over half on the sb, then we are huge underdogs.


Equity Win Tie
MP2 36.66% 35.48% 1.18% { 97o }
MP3 63.34% 62.16% 1.18% { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J4s+, T5s+, 96s+, 86s+, 75s+, 65s, A2o+, K4o+, Q6o+, J7o+, T7o+, 98o }

Ivey 12 years, 3 months ago
Damian I agree with you that when we're called, we're not in the greatest shape. The thing is that the steal only has to work 57% of the time to make this a break even steal. If we're raising to 2bbs, then both blinds have to fold on average 2bb/(2bb+1.5bb)=0.57=57% or more to make this profitable. That also means that the blinds can play 43% of their hands each, and we'll still show an immediate profit. I expect to bluff them a certain %age postflop as well, so overall the open is pretty standard. This hand was also played on a speed/zoom table where ppl tend to be a bit more fold happy (at least at these levels) and thus I open with a very wide range on the btn (at least 50%). If the sb/bb is lag or 3bets a bunch then I agree that I would probably open this hand less often to those specific opponents.
maco 12 years, 3 months ago
I would cbet this flop vs a reg like all the time,I want to be balance and if I check my hand is face up,I will always bet my bluff here with something like T9 and when I check my hand looks like a hand with showdown value,small pair etc I would bet all my range on this flop.Sorry for my bad english,hope that you understood,
Parker Muir 12 years, 3 months ago
Agreed maco - I like a value bet on this flop as well. It meshes well with how we want to play most of our range in this spot and I think we get plenty of calls from worse ace-high type hands along with 22-66.
Ivey 12 years, 3 months ago
Frankly I think people worry too much about balance in these types of spots and just in general. Again this was on a zoom table so people are not paying close enough attention to the types of boards you're cbetting/not cbetting, so balance doesn't really matter. Especially at 25nl. Maybe 200nl+ we should start worrying about balancing our range. We're definitely not getting 3 streets here from his calling range other than ace high floats that will probably stab turn/river anyways. So I think it's fine to check back. Also if our hand looks like we have some showdown value, why not check it back and induce some bluffs by deceiving him in to thinking that he can barrel us off of our hand?
maco 12 years, 3 months ago
A good reg even at 25nl will barrel us on good card and we'll never know where we are,we are gonna play a guessing game.Maybe is 25nl,but i wanna play my hand as best as can and i think cbet is the best play here imao.

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