T8s BB vs UTG. Float OOP XR river

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T8s BB vs UTG. Float OOP XR river

Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players) BN: $12.77
SB: $25.10
BB: $27.83 (Hero)
UTG: $47.65
MP: $25.00
CO: $27.48
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is BB with T 8
UTG raises to $0.75, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.50
Flop ($1.60) 9 2 2
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.02, Hero calls $1.02
Turn ($3.64) 9 2 2 7
Hero checks, UTG bets $2.60, Hero calls $2.60
River ($8.84) 9 2 2 7 4
Hero checks, UTG bets $5.63, Hero raises to $16.47, UTG folds
Final Pot BB wins $19.20
Rake is $0.90

Just after an opinion on this hand I played. Wasn't really sure with my decision on any street.

In terms of my play on the river. I think I stuffed up my river sizing, should have jammed in my opinion. I bluffed this hand as I didn't think I had enough hand I could bluff with. I didn't want to bluff with missed hearts as they block some of his bluffs. Upon further inspection I think KcQc, KcJc, QcJc, Ac8c and Ac6c are better candidates as they block overpairs. I think them combos are enough bluffs as well as there's not many hands I want to raise for value (99, 77, 22)

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Resolve 8 years ago

I think preflop is a bit loose and I think xr flop or turn is better than calling.

River is a spew imo but could be very good exploitatively in this spot. I think most regs will barrel wide because their range is stronger and valuebet quite thin. I think you will only get called by 97s, A2s (if they even open those) and full houses by most regs and they will fold all one pair hands (and bluffs obv).

mitchr1598 8 years ago

Do you think I should had a xr range on flop or turn? Seems bad to cap my calling range when I have such a range disadvantage. Opens me up to get overbet a lot. I could be wrong though. My thoughts were, I should slow play 99, 77 and 22 to protect my range and then xr river as he would likely have a high river betting frequency on most rivers

JCJordypants 8 years ago

I think preflop is ok, I've been experimenting a bit with widening my preflop call range and I think this would be the weakest hand I would call vs UTG but it's close.

Flop float is ok again given backdoor flush draw and backdoor straight draw. You could consider x/r the flop and planning to barrel on cards that improve your equity. I think I would x/r the turn as you can definitely get better hands to fold at this point and put a lot of pressure on the weaker hands that get to the river.

I think if you're going to wait until the river before x/r then you're right you're going to want hands that block his calling range more like the hands you listed above. I think if you're against a reg then they're probably overfolding as river raises are generally the nuts at this stake so they make a good spot to bluff vs people that you know will fold more often.

Tom Willetts 8 years ago

I think it's good to have a turn x/raise range in this spot because:
1. UTG can be barrelling really wide with either FD, a hand like 88 or JT or overpairs and probaby some over cards etc too, and raising puts the medium parts of his range in a tough spot. A lot of these hands will fold either turn or river.
2. You can bluff more often by raising turn barrelling river than by calling turn raising river.
3. You can get more value from your monsters as he won't have a chance to do something annoying like check back TT.

You can still protect your x/c range with some fd + overs (blocking his value range and calling river with top pair when you hit) and some 2x. Also in practice I don't see many people overbetting brick rivers on boards like this (even though I think it's good).

BubbleNedRum 8 years ago

not so sure if we want to x/r T...
we won't have the odds to call if he shoves and I don't really want to raise / f so much equity.
ad R: you pretty much said already everything and named the better hands for this play.
i would leave out in the hh that UTG folds though, tiny chance that people get biased in their assesment of the hand when they see the bluff worked / implement it in their game when we are still unsure if it is a profitable one

Salternator 8 years ago

Hey - Preflop is a standard call for me and then I would say a pretty clear fold on the flop. Something important to understand here is that the UTG player has a massive range advantage on this board and unfortunately we will be punished by an aggressive Cbetting strategy that forces us to fold a massive chunk of our range on the flop.

Our continuing range on the flop will be weighted towards pairs, Ahigh with a Heart and 9x / very occasional 2x. Given that UTG will be betting here very aggressively we can get away with a 15% check raise according to PIO which is certainly interesting given that UTG had a 59% equity on this board!!

Just goes to show that even on the strongest boards the check raise on the flop is one of the most important responses....

https://gyazo.com/1244becfc710c12e5c3917ee10140107

mitchr1598 8 years ago

Wow, 15%! Didn't expect that. Need to reconsider my strategy then.

It seems my mistake was thinking that I need to defend 60% when PIO only defends 45%. Does UTG bet 100%? That'd likely explain the high xr.

Thanks heaps :)

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