Straight vs Donk-Push River
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Straight vs Donk-Push River
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players)
BN: $12.73
SB: $38.16
BB: $25.00
UTG: $49.94
MP: $26.85
CO: $32.22 (Hero)
SB: $38.16
BB: $25.00
UTG: $49.94
MP: $26.85
CO: $32.22 (Hero)
Preflop
($0.35)
Hero is CO with
J
K
, , , ,
Flop
($1.75)
2
Q
T
,
Turn
($3.71)
2
Q
T
9
, ,
River
($17.71)
2
Q
T
9
9
,
Vs unknown. is a crying fold OTR?
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I like a bigger bet OTF, I think just over 1/2 pot-sized bet is a bit small for our semi-bluff. OTT, 3-bet is standard with the nut straight at the time. OTR, I'm never folding here. If villian had a set, I would expect a re-jam OTT on such a wet board. I think a pair + straight or flush draw or 2-pair is more likely. OTR, the over-jam looks weak. We have the nut straight and only lose to 9 combos of a full house if villain had a set (9x boat is possible but less likely), which we would expect a value bet, not a jam, so easy call. There are lots of combos of 2-pair, missed straight & flush draws that we beat.
Stats on villain? He looks fishy with this line.
River is a sick spot, but I think I call.
This is a fold and I think that a lot of regs, myself included, are leaking money by routinely calling here.
Ive spent last year trying to see one unknown overbet jam river for 100bb and show a nonnutted hand and the mission is not succesfull.
aehardin: this is never ever ever ever ever a bluff. Its irrelevant that some draws whiffed, he is valuebetting. And not only that, he thinks that he has the nuts. Our job is to guesstimate how does he define nuts. For example, does he think that J8 is nutted?
In my experience, even recreational players realize that we have boats and straights in our range, and dont expect anyone to fold either, thus they consider only boats to be nuts. Unknown not only overbets river, he actually bets almost 100bb.... T9 is prob the weakest hand Im happily calling (whilst being shocked and snap checking showdown and taking a note, unless its TT), 22 Is a crying call (meaning that 22 is never good, but f**k him Im not folding, hope he chokes on my money). Oh and its not given that he has 22 in his range himself.
I agree with your analysis; it all depends on how bad villain is and what he deems good enough to value bet post-flop. But I do think he still does have some bluffs in his range. I see it quite often on sites like Bovada with bad recreational players.
In regards to sets, I think we can easily put 22 and TT in his range; I'd discount QQ since we'd expect a 3-bet pre-flop most of the time.
I tend to agree with you Limp Limpson, its just I expected his sets to get it in OTT.
he doesnt have the nuts ott, I dont think he is about to 3b jam additional 100bb...
That said, even if we had 100bb total eff stack, this would be a fold and it would be questionable if he 3bet jams ott...
Hi Jaypatel, this was exactly what i thought when was playing, but now i think is a fold, thanks for comment.
good point, maybe villain is scared of str8s OTT.
I agree; he may be playing timidly with 22 OTT when hero gets re-raised.
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