stackoff with top pair

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stackoff with top pair

UTG: $51 (Hero)
HJ: $50
CO: $56.92
BN: $13.34
SB: $59.45
BB: $141.64
Preflop ($0.75) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt J K
Hero raises to $1.50, HJ folds, CO folds, BN calls $1.50, SB folds, BB calls $1
Flop ($4.75) 2 3 J (3 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3.50, BN folds, BB raises to $7, Hero calls $3.50
Turn ($18.75) 8 (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $11, BB raises to $133.14, and is all in, Hero calls $31.50, and is all in

Villain is 47/15

wts 28 w$sd 52 w$wsf 44

raise cbet 16%

On the flop I decided to call an see what happens next - if he keeps betting I would fold ott or river. But after he made this overbet check/push I decided he wouldn't do that with set or two pairs just bacuse he would raise more on the flop probably and he would just keep betting. Check push seems like madness with draw, A-high or 2x 3x hands which we can see from recreational players quite often.

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modernbuddha 11 years, 4 months ago

Easy fold OTT. Given stats, Villain has 2pr+/sets in his flop c/min-raise, turn c/jam raise range. As played, I'd call flop and fold turn to any significant action. Also, how are you coming up with your reads? "...he made this overbet check/push I decided he wouldn't do that with set or two pairs...Check push seems like madness with draw, A-high or 2x 3x hands which we can see from recreational players quite often." Did you actually observe this or are simply making generalizations based on previous opponents? I used to make this mistake, but it's important to note that every opponent is different. At first, before any reads, tight is right. 


Check push seems like madness with draw, A-high or 2x 3x hands which we can see from recreational players quite often.

Or, the nuts? 

LovePattaya 11 years, 4 months ago

Did you actually observe this or are simply making generalizations based on previous opponents? - that's exactly how I think ))

modernbuddha 11 years, 4 months ago

@LovePattaya. It doesn't matter how you think, it matters how your opponent thinks. Perhaps you shouldn't generalize your thinking to you opponents? 

Kevin 11 years, 4 months ago

47/15 seems loose passive so if he's check raising flop and turn he probably has a very strong hand in most situations.  I think KJo UTG raise pre-flop is at least a minor mistake that you compounded on later streets.  With raise on turn I think he had a set, 2 pair (J8), or possibly even AJ at worst.  It seems like you may have pegged him as bluffing from the beginning and didn't evaluate each street.  

Even if he has a monster draw 9T of diamonds (or hearts) that he's raising on turn, then good job to him for the good play and let it go.  I just think there are too many hands that beat you in this situation especially with 2 strong moves from him

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