Sort of odd graph
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Sort of odd graph
http://i.imgur.com/kkbfyAR.png
I'm just curious if this graph represents some sort of obvious leaks in my game. Usually I see graphs of winning players with really high blue lines and really low red lines. What does this graph tell you when you see it?
For the record, playing 10nl on ACR after busting my roll playing 50nl, so I'm having some difficulty adapting to 10nl again.
Thanks!
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Over this sample it could just be variance, as in you got a lot of good bluffing spots.
There are players that win big with negative red lines and there are players that win big with positive red lines so don't waste energy on these lines. Try to play as good and as much as you can, maybe post some hands, read some hands.
It's looking really good till now, good luck!
Thank you!
Hi,
Your sample is very low (16K hands) so it's difficult to make general statements.
Having a BE red line is not a bad thing (your WWSF is probably good) if it doesn't impact to much your blue line. It's not a common thing in NL10 as you mainly focus on valuebetting and not too much on bluffing so it's commun to have a high blue line and a low red line.
A good indicator is to make the ratio: R= | Redline / Blueline |, 0.6 is in general the maximum for a good player (lower it is, better it is)
In you case, R = 12/241 = 0.05 so it's really good but it's a small sample.
In higher stakes you will sometimes see good player with a high red line and a low blue line, it's because these kind of players bluff a ton, so their red line is really good but their blue line low because other players bluffcatch a lot against them and when they are called they usually lose a big pot.
So for your graph, I can't say it's bad, it looks good for now but it's not common in NL10. Will be more interesting with a higher sample.
Okay, thank you for your analysis!
My graph looks almost the same as yours (do you play 6-max? I would be surprised if this is from FR tables). At micro/low stakes this is a common graph for 6-max tables because you are able to steal a lot and if you have a big edge on your opponents post-flop you can get away with some bluffs and maintain a breakeven red line without compromising your blue line. At NL50 and up this begins to change I believe, since people start to defend blinds more often and your edge post-flop decreases. A straight down red line is definitely way more common at FR tables because people play tighter and tend to bluff less
Yes this is 6-max. I think I am quite aggressive postflop because most players at these levels are passive.
So money won without showdown is a measure of how aggressive someone is and how much they are bluffing generally?
Well, aggression doest not equal successful bluffs, that's why over aggression most of the times will make your blue line go down. Money won without showdown takes into account several parts of your game, the most important of them being: successful bluffs post flop (which depends on your edge over the field), stealing from LP and defending your blinds. You may not realize it yet but you lose a lot of money in the long run by just folding your blinds, so when you improve your game from those positions you can make your red line look better. And defending your blinds is not "aggression" in itself. You may use it do defend them but not necessarily...anyway, overall there is no way to have a great red line without being aggressive, so it is definitely a great sign of aggression. To sumarize: just keep doing what you're doing because your graph looks good
Great! Thank you again Saulo.
That`s a perfect graph for the micros.
Winning blue line + break even red line = profit.
Still too small of a sample though.
Awesome to hear that. Really wasnt meant to be a subtle brag or anything because I know 14k hands means nothing. I just noticed my graph is odd and it's the first time I've really used tracking software.
Thanks again!
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