Slow play AA D vs SB, post flop decisions

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Slow play AA D vs SB, post flop decisions

SB: $777.50
BB: $704.90
UTG: $605.25
HJ: $600
CO: $707.20
BN: $600 (Hero)
Preflop ($9.00) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt A A
UTG folds, CO folds, Hero raises to $12, SB folds, BB raises to $48, Hero calls $36
Flop ($105.00) T 2 5 (3 Players)
BB bets $54, Hero calls $54
Turn ($213.00) 9 T 2 5 (3 Players)
BB bets $120, Hero calls $120
River ($453.00) 9 T 2 5 J (3 Players)
BB bets $482.90, and is all in, Hero calls $378, and is all in
Final Pot
BB has Q K BB wins $1200
Hey, Ive played this hand 1 week ago. I dont have reads on vilain since it was on FTP. All I know is that hes a midstakes reg. I feel good about my preflop call.
I also think flop and turn are OK to call.

I have 2 questions for you guys.

1. On flop and turn, would you consider raising instead of slowplaying, and why.

2. I looked back at the hand few times, I really feel like river is a close spot but still a fold since I rep a strong range and the river is helping me out more then it does for him. Should I have folded?

thanks!

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Swoop 12 years, 1 month ago
If you dont have reads on the guy what was your reason to just call with aces here?

As played I would either raise flop or turn for value (preferably both^^) and to protect your hand against possible draws (which there are a lot out there on this board). This also balances your range for the times you want to take pots like this away with hands that are not aces.
Jean-Christophe St-Pierre 12 years, 1 month ago
Because slowplaying AA vs unknown reg is the nuts preflop. My calling range is automatically stronger forever in his mind. Also, i dont expect him to 5bet bluff me often to my first 4bet D vs CO.

I agree with u, i had to raise flop or shove turn. Still dont know which one tho.
tehduper 12 years, 1 month ago
I think your play is fine in a vacuum. He probably has something like 20% equity with his range against your hand on the turn and will probably end up bluffing it off on a lot of rivers when you just call the turn. For sure broadways, and very likely a lot of flush/backdoor flush completing rivers. However as an overall game plan, I think that's a turn you would want to be raising a lot of your continuing range so raising AA is nice for balance.
tehduper 12 years, 1 month ago
And I'm really only looking at the turn because I don't think that raising the flop is very good except under very special circumstances.
austin silver 12 years, 1 month ago
i agree with the flop and turn call once u didn't 4bet pre. since calling just keep his weakest range against u, a raise just push out all his bluff ranges,since u block all the FDs, so he dosen't have that many equity agaisnt u,and since there's so many draws in his range,we can certain he would bet most draw miss river as bluff.but this river is bad to bluff catch,cause i don't need to analyse u percieve range after calling the turn,so think of u overs beating ranges in this spots,it just none,he won't shove one pair hand for value like this, so u only beat is bluff which is not a ton in this rivers
tehduper 12 years, 1 month ago
poster didn't provide many reads but I feel like many regs still jamming AJ+ because our range have so many 1pair hands (QJ,KJ,AT,KT etc..) to gain value from and there's so few combos of hands that are 2pair+. unknown regs are expected to 4b 99+ preflop very often and also not flatting 9To,TJo so that leaves like 5 combos of 2 pairs and then rarely a 78s, which some combos will also raise before the river. So yeah I actually think we're perceived to be pretty weak here very often and we should expect a lot of thin value/bluffs on this river.
djnef01 11 years, 10 months ago
anybody like just jamming turn? we probably get calls from JJ-KK which are going to be a decent part of villain's range and then probably some tx and some pair+draw combos also
brahsworld84 11 years, 10 months ago

If flop is Tc2s5s...I dont mind the flop slowplay esp having AsAx.

if its Tc9c2s...I am not trying to slowplay.

I was a bit confused cuz ott it puts the order of the cards differently.

I would be hard pressed to find hands I dont 4bet aces sbvsbb only to fold postflop.

nma 11 years, 10 months ago

I'd fold the river.. You're not really beating anything anymore.  He's not just shoving K 10 for value.  If anything, should have raised that flop, it's fairly draw heavy.  The only hands you beat are like queens and kings and I'm not even sure if he's going to shove those on the river when everything completes.  It's either 10s, jacks, a flush, straight, 2 pair, or maybe any missed fds..


lwe 11 years, 10 months ago

i like your preflop and flop play but i think i would jam on that turn simply because the board is so draw heavy and on the turn i dont think our hand is necessarily a "monster" to be slow playing. 

as played i think the river is a tough call or fold. I think the over bet jam on river kinda confuses me. I dont think he would play kk or qq like that. I think he would go for a standard value size. He might have jj and overbet river. He can't have ak or aq suited for the flush which is probably in his 3bet range so this might give me reason to call but even then i dont think its a clear cut call.

I think i can find a fold a lot of times on this river given the line of action we took. I think this might be a losing call over the long run but i dont know poker math so i might be wrong.

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