[SH] NL100 Zoom AQo in BB
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[SH] NL100 Zoom AQo in BB
BN: $109.81
SB: $104.16
BB: $101.16 (Hero)
UTG: $203.03
HJ: $159.28
CO: $100
SB: $104.16
BB: $101.16 (Hero)
UTG: $203.03
HJ: $159.28
CO: $100
CO is a regular but no history or stats. I know he is a regular because of entries played and being fulls stacked.
Preflop
($1.50)
(6 Players)
Hero was dealt
Q
A
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO raises to $3, BN folds, SB folds, Hero calls $2
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO raises to $3, BN folds, SB folds, Hero calls $2
Closing the action against probably solid CO I think calling is likely to be better than 3betting but definitely understand there are arguments for 3betting.
Flop
($6.50)
5
Q
6
(2 Players)
Hero checks,
CO bets $4.25,
Hero calls $4.25
Do you think check/raising for value here makes sense? Most regulars view a check/raise here as a draw sine 55-66 doesn't call 100% pre, QQ 3bets pre, 65s unlikely thus we look like a flushdraw or lower equity bluff.
Turn
($15.00)
5
Q
6
A
(2 Players)
Hero checks,
CO bets $10,
Hero calls $10
River
($35.00)
5
Q
6
A
9
(2 Players)
Hero checks,
CO bets $24,
Hero calls $24
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i would 3 bet preflop to have strong hands when i 3 bet bb but we can call and play posflop
flop is hard because if we x raise we isolate against better hands. But dont know how to play well turn on drawy board. I dont know how to balance a check call flop + donk turn
so i would check raise flop and get stacks vs push
as played i would check raise turn
river worse 2 pairs
I disagree, without any history/dynamic against a std grinder, I get a lot of folds in this spot when I bluff raise river probably because most regs assume that at 100nl there aren't enough bluff raises river (probably a correct assumption). Vilain may expect you to play aggressively your draw flop or turn (at least sometimes) you rep really well AQ/set, so to bluffcatch with Ax he needs to put you on a double float OOP (JT/KT/KJ or a Qx/PP turned into bluff) or that you fastplay your big hand very often flop or turn.
I think you took the best line in a vacuum against a reg, without history you probably wouldn't induce enough 4bet bluff/lighter for value cause it's not a the best spot for resteal (BBvsCO). Flop I wouldn't c/r for value cause you don't have any c/r dynamic so he's probably less likely to float your c/r and you don't know his range for cbetting (polarized = less good); moreover, nothing prevents you from DBing turn on cards you don't expect him to bluff. Turn is the best card for you cause I expect him to bluff turn and river. I wouldn't raise turn for protection (you block some Ax/Qx) cause it's a perfect spot for him to value thin and bluff river.
I think you should be check raising the turn since there are two flush draws and you really don't rep a whole lot as you said when discussing flop. It's also a spot where he gets stubborn with an A or Q due to the drawy nature of the board. Then when the river bricks he can possible talk himself into a call. However, I don't expect a 100nl reg to bet that many of his bare Ax hands 3 streets for value unless they are 2pair (which will all of course stack off to a xr).
@3barreling: If he doesn't bet almost any Ax for 3 streets then we can probably bluffcatch Qx on bricks. Do you think we show up with weaker than Qx on the river with our line?
Turn bluffing range would include a some FDs/combo FDs and/or 5x, 6x (blockers).
Agreed about sometimes bluff catching Qx OTR against the right type of guy who really doesn't value bet thinly. No I think it would be pretty rare for us to show up with worse than Qx on the riv.
YES, we are c/raise-calling here with our hand.
moral of the story: villain has super wide range of draws and value hands that we all beat, please c/r for value.
Back to more serious stuff about postflop: If we check/raise here, what is our perceive bluff range and what is our check/calling range that doesn't fold river?
As for our hands that we c/r the turn with might include weak pair + FD, fd+straightdraws, FD's.
As for your last question, I think that we should first think about whether or not we should have a c/c range OTT? and if so, why? I think whenever you c/c this turn, we almost always bluff catch the river vs a range that has a 20-30% or better equity vs us OTT. I am not a fan of playing guessing games on the river where their bet is all in to be honest. I guess you could c/c some AhXh hands.
As far as turn calling, if you fold everything but 2PR+ on this turn you end up folding at least 80% of your range which gives villain too much EV to barrel hands like KcJx. If I'm playing against someone who folds that much on scare cards, I'm just going to cbet nearly 100% and go pretty wild when I see the board get scary.
Given we do miss out on his bluffs on the river, i think that is made up by the calls we get from strong Qx, Ax or KK which check back river.
My standard would probably be to c/r the turn. It screams strength but i doubt he folds an Ace in this spot to one bet.
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