Second pair UTG vs BB

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Second pair UTG vs BB

CO: $400
BN: $1000
SB: $400
BB: $1000
UTG: $1000 (Hero)
UTG1: $825
LJ: $1033.50
HJ: $400
17/12 W$WSF 44
Preflop ($15.00) (8 Players)
Hero was dealt Q A
Hero raises to $30, UTG1 folds, LJ folds, HJ folds, CO folds, BN folds, SB folds, BB calls $20
Flop ($65.00) K J Q (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks
Turn ($65.00) K J Q 4 (2 Players)
BB bets $41.59, Hero calls $41.59
River ($148.18) K J Q 4 6 (2 Players)
BB bets $90, Hero folds
Final Pot
BB wins $145.18
Am I a nit? Am I stupid for posting a rlly std hand? How Can I play NL1K if I'm still doubting about this hand?

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Teddy 12 years ago
Doubt he has a lot of non sd value hands vs an utg raise at full ring, so taking whatever equity you get when he checks turn and river seems good to me.
From02Hero - 12 years ago
i`m not used to FR ranges etc. also u didn`t give any info about villain/yourself.
but facing the facts we got i don`t like checking back flop to call turn/ fold river cause villain should wheter 1barrel bluff against our perceived range, nor valuebet worse on the turn all that often.
so imo xb flop to call turn and river, or fold turn.
obv another option is to cbet flop since i assume we will take down the pot gainst all his underpairs (which might bluff turn/river but we have no info about villain). further villain could call worse on the flop like JTs,AJ,QTs if he has those pre. vs x/r flop we have an easy fold.
but it`s still hard to judge that spot w/o any info
mike 12 years ago
this is a spot where i just CB the flop even though we only get called by a few worse hands and never fold better because i expect to the CB to be very +EV as he will be folding very often(i expect his range to be mostly pairs and a few combos of suited B-way-KQ/AJ/AQ/AK)

this feels kind of wrong but vs most FR regs i don't expect to make a lot by with XB to induce on that board and i am not sure if i should be calling 0,1,or2 streets i don't play 5/10 online so i could be way off on this and my ranging:)
horsetranquilizer 12 years ago
taking positions into account, i think you played it just fine.
more info on the opponent might change the whole hand though
Frandsen 12 years ago
I think if he is a solid player he will realise that 22-77 has no SD value in this spot for him and he is going to bluff that and some random SC with a high frequency. You also have close to no combos of Kx (maybe AK) in this spot, so I think AQ is close to the top of your range and I am calling turn + river here.
Sean Lefort 12 years ago
NH now I'd just go ahead and fold. As stated earlier, we're likely only beating hands that are being turned into bluffs (ie. he doesn't have many hands w/o SD value) and our hand looks exactly like it is in a spot where there's no reason for him to think it's a good explo spot to get us to fold out all our bluff-catchers.
d0zer 12 years ago
would you chk back AK/AA here as well ? if not it seems like this is basically the top of our range and our entire range is bluffcatching by the river. Even though ranges are inherently tight here and villain doesnt really have many hands he could be bluffing with anyway, how do we now/avoid getting bet+bet on by his entire range if we are never able to call down here barring an odd slowplay on our part ?

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