SB play vs Button 4Bet

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SB play vs Button 4Bet

Hey, Guys, my question here is how are we proceeding when we get 4 bet here and is this a standard call do you think people have enough bluffs to merit calling here, any help would be greatly appreciated against a passive player it's an easy fold pre never mind the river but i not sure :)
MP: 105.04 BB
CO: 109.16 BB
BTN: 106 BB
Hero (SB): 123.8 BB
BB: 101.4 BB
UTG: 117.4 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Ah Jh
fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, BTN raises to 35 BB, Hero calls 23 BB

Flop : (71 BB, 2 players) 4h Ac Ad
Hero checks, BTN bets 17.52 BB, Hero calls 17.52 BB

Turn : (106.04 BB, 2 players) Tc
Hero checks, BTN checks

River : (106.04 BB, 2 players) Kc
Hero checks, BTN bets 53.48 BB

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HawksWin 5 years, 11 months ago

Without some very specific reads, this has to be a fold pre. In my player pool they just aren't 4 betting light enough to want to continue after the 4 bet.

As for river, I expect him to have you here most always. His Ax range is stronger than yours, TT got there if he VB flop with it, KK gets there on river, which really makes a lot of sense here. Can't see QQ doing this. I would be much less surprised to see Ax that you beat than I would be to see QQ.

HawksWin 5 years, 11 months ago

I have no problem with the initial 3bet. The 4 bet is what concerns me (mostly because of the size). I don’t expect him to be wide enough here to make calling AJs profitable in the long run. If he has AA/KK/QQ/AKs/AKo/AQs as the bulk of his range, calling AJs is very problematic. If you have a read that he will have some polarity, the call gets better

Jeff_ 5 years, 11 months ago

Too big size pre to be calling anything, if he have bluffs I believe we can profitable shove because after his 35BB 4bet he is pretty much not allowed to fold. Need to do calculations on this one but I wouldn't call anything (5bet or fold)

akissv7 5 years, 11 months ago

Preflop - Easy fold.
River Difficult spot as the ranges are normally very narrow in a 4 bet pot. Still villain can have many hands that beat you such as AK, KK, AQ and less hands that you beat. In 3/4 bet pots people tend to play more straightforward but still your pot odds are reasonable and if you call preflop with AJ I think it is also a call on the river.

akissv7 5 years, 11 months ago

I will 3bet AJ allmost always from the SB against a BTN opener only if the BTN is a NIT that does not steal enough I might elect to call. When they 4 bet me I just fold. I don't see a problem there as the BTN most of the time the will fold sometimes call and rarely 4bet.

FlaXmarZ 5 years, 11 months ago

Generally easy call pre vs decent player, if he is nit, and because of the sizing, i guess fold is ok. As played just call river, he can show up with an Ax that bluffed pre and now wants to valuebet

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