Do you have any data behind the claim that bigger 3bets OOP are an outdated thing?
My understanding is that IP has better equity realization when the SPR is higher. That's the advantage IP has. To lower that OOP 3bets bigger. Qing Yang has a video where he explores which sizing is preferred and why.

im just talking out of personal feelings and experience and dont have the data to back it up

i just feel like pot size raise 3bets should be the standard since it gives people the same odds to call is more balanced and disguise your range better than having a standard/small 3bet ip and bigger oop

the equity realization thing is an exploitative thing and my intuition says gto poker cares a lot less about position than players factor into their decision making

i cant really articulate it too well but its just sometime ive been echoing for long time and i could easily be wrong - it can just easily be a stylistic thing i prefer and perhaps should not be discouraging others from playing differently i can admit

but i would trust Qing Yang over my feelings anyday since i know he is putting the right hands into whatever bet sizing he is using

I made a video about Equity Realization. We have UTG open range and look at BB 100% call and see what the EV is compared to Equity% x Potsize.

This is the difference for those hands between OOP and IP.

The entire range would perform better vs UTG open range if BB was IP instead of OOP. AKs increases 28.45% of it's equity realization. I wouldn't say that GTO doesn't care about it as this is all done through solver work.

I do agree it isn't always as relevant. The smaller SPR becomes the less relevant this is.
If BTN opens 2.5x then SB 3betting 4x to 10BB compared to 7.5BB will be a bigger difference than BTN opening 3x and SB 3betting 12BB vs 9BB. It's not lineair, more converging.

Solves have been made with all the options available. Bigger is used OOP and it isn't really debatable.

the equity realization is a fact and i cant debate that

i can only contest that 3betting bigger oop doesnt feel like the best adjustment - if your going to realize your equity less then why put more money in preflop?

i think what i am trying to say is that you will always be inherently at a disadvantage oop - so switching sizings does not matter and if you do go bigger you get more folds but does that really solve the problem?

are we doing this postflop as well? we just bet whatever we would normally + a few more bbs?

Brett Banks which solver is able allows you to input a range and allow you to choose and compare the ev of multiple sizings to see if bigger is better? if you can do this and see the ev then there is no debate

but if you are putting in different sizings first and seeing the ranges then that still doesnt answer the question

Snowie does have a bigger 2x pot raise oop and it does in fact increase the EV of the hands at the top of our range but it requires us to bluff raise much much more and the core of my thought process is that most people don't bother changing their 3betting range oop and just go "this is my 3bet range and i go bigger +x bb oop" which = "i dont bluff enough when i raise big so my opponents correctly overfold so i stopped his equity realization!"

^ this to me makes absolutely no sense and why i feel so passionate about it, cause if people truly believed this they would be 2x pot raising oop with their weak Ax for max ev and the standard oop raise size ought to be way bigger than what the perceived meta is - thus i can only conclude that this is all exploitative play and not supported by theory

i think what i am trying to say is that you will always be inherently at a disadvantage oop - so switching sizings does not matter and if you do go bigger you get more folds but does that really solve the problem?

It's not about getting folds. It's about lowering their equity realization potential. A lower SPR means IP has lower equity realization.

A lot of this is pure theoretical tbh. A higher SPR should benefit the better player as there's more play. If you consider yourself better than your opponent I wouldn't mind going for the smaller 3bet size.