Question regarding Flopzilla
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Question regarding Flopzilla
Lets say that we have a hand of BTN vs BB and we want to create a cbet range for the BTN in a specific board. We create that range but then if we want to explore BTN's strategy when they check behind. Do we need to create this range from scratch again? Or is there any option than can invert between the combos you selected which pass the filter and the ones which do not? This would be a really useful feature. Thanks!
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I would think you can just apply the filters for the cbet stuff. Like TP+ and combo draws. If they check back, they would be doing that with their whole range so I would not click the button that applies the filters. In other words, they would get to the turn with their whole range. Shouldn't have to re-enter anything. I would then add a turn card and try to figure out what they will do on the turn. So the flop would be unfiltered and then you can begin filtering from the turn on. I think this is what you are asking but I might be mistaken.
You can do this type of filtering more extensively with Power Equilab.
SetMineUrAss yeah, I agree. I have PokerRanger and Flopzilla and I use each of them when appropriate. I thought about getting power equilab but there is really no point since PokerRanger does the same things, and even more.
No, I am not saying this. I say that let's say that we're BTN vs BB again and we studied the hand where BTN cbet flop and then turn and river. Now we're done with the hand but we want to explore a hypothetical scenario where they checked flop. It can't be 100% of their preflop range here since they have a cbet range. Do I need to enter this manually again? That's what I did last time and everything got messed up since I've added weights and many filters as well. In the end I got very frustrated with all of that and closed the program.
I would approach it this way. I would filter the hands out that I think he will cbet for the cbet analysis.
And Then unclick the filters and then re-filter for the hands that I think will check.
Should not have to re-enter ranges. You can manipulate them and do whatever you want with the ranges as long as you have the baseline ranges saved.
HawksWin I was big on PokerRanger when it first came out. I don't remember exactly what got me onto Power Equilab. It might have been the price at the time /shrug. Is it still the original PR that you're using or did they ever come out with PR2? I remember talk of 2 around the time I stopped using it.
I am not sure if the one I have is an upgrade from the original. I have had it for maybe 15 months or so (I would guess). Without having a solver, I would say PokerRanger or PowerEquilab are absolute essential pieces of software. You can do the same type of stuff in like Pokerstove and Equilab, but it's so much easier with PR or PE.
I think Flopzilla is awesome for several things. I am not sure if PE or PR will do this but simply putting in hands to see how often they hit flop is invaluable. How often does T9 hit the flop vs. how often 76 hits the flop? T9s "hits" 37% of the time vs. 28% of the time. Simple stuff like that.
The other nice thing about Flopzilla is that it quickly helps you improve your play hand vs. range which is going to be a very important fundamental to start to master before range vs range dynamics need to be studied into great detail. Knowing the very basics of range vs range dynamic should be pretty intuitive. (BTN always has range advantage vs BB call, etc.).
So we have to memorize certain percentages to improve as a player, right? I am taking some flops recently like Ace High with two low cards, or baby boards and I memorize the percentages for how often various ranges hit like a 33% flatting range or a 13% range so I can get a feel on how ranges interact with different textures. I saw a lot of percentages on a book written just for playing AK from Splitsuit. It had from what I remember percentages of AK vs various ranges. Exactly what you are talking about basically.
Get CardrunnersEV. :-)
Why? I asked the developer (Scylla, obv) what we would use CREV for now that GTO+ is out and he said basically nothing. Again - not a loaded question. I'm in full learning mode here.
GTO+ is a solver, CREV is a tree modelling tool. I regularly work with solvers (that no misunderstandings come up), but in my opinion it's like a pocket calculator. And nobody learns math by operating a pocket calculator. :-)
If you buy GTO+, you get a license for CREV for free. I haven't played around much with CREV, but GTO+'s functionality seems to be a superset of CREV's.
Flopzilla is a nice range visualizer, but you can do basically the same thing in GTO+ as well. However, Flopzilla is very cheap and useful.
I'll agree that the visualization aspects of Flopzilla are superior to PE. It definitely build intuition at the tables. As for CREV: It's the only piece of poker software I've worked with yet that I still totally don't understand how to use lol. It's over my head. I'm actually going to dig into it a bit today now that we've brought it up.
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