QQ turn decision 10NL
Posted by Alex Geiger
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Alex Geiger
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QQ turn decision 10NL
UTG: $10 (Hero)
HJ: $10
CO: $10
BN: $7.03
SB: $10.05
BB: $5
HJ: $10
CO: $10
BN: $7.03
SB: $10.05
BB: $5
BTN: 28/17/7.3 WTSD: 31 (158 hands)
Preflop
($0.15)
(6 Players)
Hero was dealt
Q
Q
Hero raises to $0.30, CO folds, BN calls $0.30, SB folds, BB folds
Hero raises to $0.30, CO folds, BN calls $0.30, SB folds, BB folds
Flop
($0.75)
3
8
2
(3 Players)
Hero bets $0.50,
BN raises to $1,
Hero calls $0.50
Miniraise didn't scared me because there are just 3 competent combos out which beat us: 33, 88, 22.
He can play this line with either A8, 99-JJ, and probably draws. I decided to call.
He can play this line with either A8, 99-JJ, and probably draws. I decided to call.
Turn
($2.75)
3
8
2
4
(3 Players)
Hero checks,
BN bets $2.40,
Hero raises to $6,
BN calls $3.33, and is all in
I rated this Turn card a total blank, I decided to check/raise him. This bet sizing was pretty big, but I won't be so happy if I saw the 3rd club on the River. On the other hand 4s doesn't change the texture, and doesn't strengthen his range overall.
How do You play this hand Guys?
Thank You!
How do You play this hand Guys?
Thank You!
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Flop is a must call
Turn: Raise flop stat? He has to overplay 99, tt, jj stuff here to make it +ev ...if his raise flop isnt like 5% or less im fine with gii ott because he seems to be fish
Im sure you just meant 3 hands that beat us, but just in case or for inexperienced people who read it, its actually 9 combos of sets, 3 each of 33, 88, 22 as there is 3 ways to make each of those hands (3c3s, 3c3h, 3s3h, for example).
Im really not sure why he would bet like this on the turn with a draw, so its he is either over valueing 99-JJ or maybe has A5. He also could have some slowplayed AA/KK. If we give him 3 combos of AA and say he plays JJ-99 like this 2/3rd of the time we cant profitably shove (its exactly breakeven before rake), so we need him to have bluffs here, or be doing this with JJ-99 more than 2/3rd the time. Seems kinda dubious, but I dont really know how your not seemingly very competent NL10 player plays. I do think given his betsize the turn is either shove or fold, because I doubt the river gets bluffed given SPR so theres not much point in just calling, because we are going to have a hard time folding river anyway as well given odds.
Sorry, I used a wrong word. 9 combos of sets, right.
If we add more 8x, like A8 98 etc its a clear stack off right? i'm glad you included AA/KK because i see this preflop slowplay often.
I agree with ItsToothPasteISwear. It's a fold or shove OTT. It's a call, if Villain is capable of overplaying top pair hands and 99-JJ. If not, you need to fold because his entire value min-raising range has you crushed.
I mostly agree with the fold/shove argument, leaning toward shove a lot. It's just too easy for him to be messing with us since this board shouldn't connect with any of our range except A5s, and there are way more combos of unpaired over cards we should have than over pairs.
For fun, I looked in my own 10nl database over the last two months for this spot, and while it happened rarely enough to not be a tremendously effective sample, about a dozen times, I will say that I never once faced trips, and that most of the time it was a flush draw or a smaller pair that figured we can't have anything on the low board.
(That being said, even though I would 3bet or fold it pre myself, I wouldn't be too shocked that he shows up with exactly A5cc here.)
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