I hate this spot.

By the Turn practically of his value 3bet combos have you beaten, except for AK and TT. I have seen players overplay TT in this way, but more often than not you're crushed.

Without reads, I think the Turn is a fold. However, I'm not saying that I will always fold the Turn.

Figure you shipped the pot on the River anyway! GG lol

Seems like there's no way you can fold this without overfolding so it's just a matter of if you think opponent is underbluffing and never valuebetting worse, in which case you should fold every bluffcatcher. I don't know if he is underbluffing, I wouldn't be surprised though. I know just from personal experience I get really excited when I remember to bluff enough combos on a board like this, it can be a bit challenging to find them. If he can have T8s and 87s he's probably pretty close to there already though.

I'd have a hard time deciding what to do on the turn without some reads on the make-up of his 3b range and also his postflop tendencies. It's very relevant whether he bets all of his AQ/AK OTF and has a tendency to barrel them A LOT on the turn. I'd expect him to bet with a very high frequency on the flop because he should feel like you hit the flop very poorly so his preflop range advantage still remains pretty strong. So if he's assuming this, he gets to the turn with 24 combos of AK/AQ which he may barrel or check. Some villains will consider it normal to continue betting a lot on this turn, some won't. Knowing how much Jx he can have is also rather relevant (namely what he would do preflop with AJo/AJs). Also can he have KQs or KQo? If he can he's probably betting flop and definitely betting turn and most likely river.

Strictly speaking, AA/KK/JJ/99 have us crushed here but that's 21 combos of a ~75ish combo range (counting the QQ card removal) he 3bets. So what we need to know pretty much is how likely he is to have Jx hands to value bet turn with and how likely he is to show up with the rest of his range as a bluff. Not knowing how aggressive vilain is in general or in 3b pots in particular, nor how likely he is to have Jx or KQ here my default in a vacuum would definitely not be to fold turn, ever. I think at these stakes vs most villains it's pretty clear cut between a very easy call and a very easy fold OTT. I expect vs a significant portion of the player pool our equity will run in the 40+% easily and vs another portion it will run 25%-.

Sorry I can't really give you a good answer... My range looks so weak on this runout, even though we hit the J somewhat better than he does, that I'd be hard pressed to fold QQ OTT vs any villain who realizes this or just likes betting a lot. Honestly I'd usually be looking to call most rivers as well. From villain's point of view by the turn the top of our range, excluding our few sets, looks like T9s or AJs (probably AJo as well I guess but we'd have to be floating flop with Ahigh no backdoor). He has so much incentive to 3barrel his bluffs (specially if they have any blocker like Ax or Kx) that I feel like QQ is folding incorrectly. Essentially, I doubt any villain will cbet this flop and check this turn much. Let's say he cbets ~85% OTF and ~70% OTT he would still have about 48 combos of which we beat at least 27.

Maybe this helps structure the spot better, I don't know. Again without any reads at all it's kind of hard to tell but I at least don't think folding turn would be standard at all. If I'm wrong I'd love to know though, because I've been spewing this spot for a few years if such is the case!

Reading JolNrbs' post I feel a bit guilty that I didn't specify how I see villain ending up here with bluffs. It really depends what kind of range villain 3bets and how he plays certain hands like AK postflop. Definitely if villain is the type to 3b some suited connectors and polarize his range a bit here it can add to his "sensible" equity semi-bluffs!

I think turn is close and depends on your opponent. I might peel once and reevaluate the river.

Get a HUD so you can see his 3b in every position vs every position separate. If you got PT4 I could probably send you my pop up for this.

About the hand I would call turn and fold revalueate river. He might have AJ/KJ and whatever 9x or TT-type of hands.

My experience from weaker players and lower stakes are that people 1. Underbluff river 2. They do these weird bets which are very hard to understand if it's for value or some kind of bluff with hands that aint in need of protection. 3. Most ppl just cbet every single pot in 3b pots. And I don't think he's going to be very light for value OTR, if he bets on a blank I would lean towards folding, if he checks I would jam and expect to be good like almost always.

Agree with sweet16 at these stakes, I also noticed follow through OTR tends to be ridiculously low. Actually overall my read of the micros is flop cbetting tends to be totally out of control and even moreso in 3b pots, turn cbetting varies between way too low (often due to too much flop cbetting) and very high (important in this instance to take flop cbetting range into account) but river is almost always given up way too much so double floats and too a much greater extent call/call/fold lines with SDV work quite well. Also agree river is a really easy jam if villain checks. I actually think it's kind of goofy on villain's part to have any sort of x/c range on a blank river given how he gets there, but I might be wrong in this assumption (not that he won't call, just that it seems goofy not to shove a hand strong enough to call).

In my mind you are a calling station and have no idea where you stand. If you were trapping ok call down with your read. Why not raise the flop?

Against most villains I also think QQ will play better as a 4b/call. I guess we can mix in some slowplays sometimes and maybe not 4b it vs some particularly nitty opponents.