QQ multiway. Correct flopshove?

Posted by Elmar939

Posted by Elmar939 posted in Low Stakes

Posted 9 years, 11 months ago

QQ multiway. Correct flopshove?

Blinds: $0.05/$0.10 (6 Players) BN: $13.80
SB: $17.08
BB: $6.12
UTG: $10.00 (Hero)
MP: $13.09
CO: $9.26

Zoom hand, so no reads/stats

Preflop ($0.15) Hero is UTG with Q Q

Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, BN calls $0.30, SB folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop ($0.95) 9 4 8

BB bets $0.91, Hero calls $0.91, BN raises to $2.73, BB calls $1.82, Hero raises to $9.70 and is all in, BN

Quite a strange spot. did not know what to make of the donkbet, but considering BB did not have a full stack he is probably a fish and could do this with a wide range. Considering his call after the raise I don't think he has a hand that has us beat. If we construct a raising range for BN of 88+, AcKc we have about 41% equity, which would make this raise +EV considering the dead money, right? Any comments?

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ILoseFlips 9 years, 11 months ago

Not sure why you just called BB donkbet and shove vs BTN raise and BB call.

The problem is that your Qc block a lot of their semi bluffing combo (KQcc, QJcc, AQcc, QTcc... I also don't think that BTN raises worst for value if he is not too bad. I think I would fold, BTN raise looks pretty strong in a 3bet pot against a bet and a call, you gonna run in 99/88/44/98 a lot imo and you are not even sure to be always ahead of BB.

Samu Patronen 9 years, 11 months ago

Why would you assume that BTN shoves 88+? Doesn't make any sense for him to play TT/JJ this way. His range is more like 99/88/98s and draws, and versus that range I would just fold my hand. BB can also have you beat.

Zeal 9 years, 11 months ago

Raising flop with the intention to GII versus the fish and fold to a reraise from BTN might be a viable play, although I'm not sure. As played I'll probably fold as well.