QJ on BU against donk limper
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QJ on BU against donk limper
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Not a fan of the ISO pre. I would stick to the QJs combos and just get out of the way with QJo. I get it, we are on the button but this is too wide considering Rake and limpers Stack Depth.
As played, no other options really. Could raise turn I guess but I don't think it is necessary. The best draw is T9/BD club FD that turned equity. The straight draw did close on river but for this price I am paying him off.
Hey, thanks for the reply.
1 more questions if I may:
Why does limpers stack depth make this iso not worth?
Stack depth creates situations where the SPR is lower. In this case we have 1.5bb in the pot prior to his limp, we have his limp and the MP limp and your 5bb ISO. Pot is 8.5bb and he has 48 behind (5.5+ SPR). Should he call the ISO, there will be 13.5bb in the pot and if MP calls, there will be 18.5bb in the pot. He will have 43bb behind. Now we are looking at an SPR of less than 2.5 with a hand with poor playability.
We flop poorly with QJo since we basically can't flop a FD or Combo Draw unless the board is monotone.
Most importantly our implied odds suck for a few reasons: most notably, our implied odds are bad because he is 1/2 stacked (same reason why it is bad to set mine vs short stacks) and we compound that problem with a hand that can't flop well enough to continue (No FD's or Combo Draws) often enough.
The combos of better Jx and sets is about the same as the worse jacks he can have, both around 76. Considering he limp called I put him on the weaker side of Jx
I think post flop is fine and I would play it the same way. Had he checked river, I would be jamming it in myself (targeting pairs and weaker Jx).
My issue was with preflop. 1/2 stacked limper, full stacked limper I would simplify and only iso the suited QJ combos.
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