Probably not the type of spot that gets posted too often
Posted by Paul Atwal
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Paul Atwal
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Probably not the type of spot that gets posted too often
Preflop
($0.35)
shifftyy is BN with
A
5
, , ,
i don't see too many regs with very wide SB cold calling ranges. by default, i think i can put him on a range of:
A2s-A9s
22-88
76s-T9s
all broadways
A2s-A9s
22-88
76s-T9s
all broadways
Flop
($1.25)
9
2
J
, ,
so the best he can be here is bottom set, but that's hard to have. he has a decent amount of Jx combos. A few 9x combos too. underpairs, A2, and draws.
i think betting is best here, but i'm far from convinced. i'd definitely like to see what others think.
though is somewhat good for his range, he has very few hands that can withstand pressure. i think he'll end up making a lot of mistakes.. i'd probably check back here with JJ, maybe AJ, even less frequently with KJ. i'd check back most 9x combos. not sure what i do here with 66-88, probably check?
i give up with a lot of complete air hands here like Q5o.
probably use some sort of mixed strategy with AT, AQ, and AK..
A5 is in kind of close here i think, but i like betting. i don't see any reason to bet very big here.. we wouldn't really need protection for our strong hands.
i think betting is best here, but i'm far from convinced. i'd definitely like to see what others think.
though is somewhat good for his range, he has very few hands that can withstand pressure. i think he'll end up making a lot of mistakes.. i'd probably check back here with JJ, maybe AJ, even less frequently with KJ. i'd check back most 9x combos. not sure what i do here with 66-88, probably check?
i give up with a lot of complete air hands here like Q5o.
probably use some sort of mixed strategy with AT, AQ, and AK..
A5 is in kind of close here i think, but i like betting. i don't see any reason to bet very big here.. we wouldn't really need protection for our strong hands.
Turn
($2.65)
9
2
J
9
,
pretty bad card here. i'm checking back most of my 9x combos on the flop, so it's hard for me to rep that.. i also now would probably check back a lot of my Jx combos here. i think i have to check back this turn.
River
($2.65)
9
2
J
9
2
,
i think a lot of people would call here automatically (i think i usually would) without putting much thought into it.. i also now think i should've just called here, but only after some thought.
it's hard to see him betting with 33-88 here, but it's possible. i have Jx here somewhat often. also, you'd think he'd check with most of those hands and weakish Jx (the strongest Jx he can even have is KJ) and let me bet my draws.. all he's really repping here 9x and 22. 22 would at least consider x/r flop.
i can definitely see him betting with a lot of his missed draws here, leaving him pretty unbalanced. i think that's a pretty common leak at these limits. at a quick glance, it seems to me like he should probably be checking his whole range here, and then x/r 9x, 22, and some straight draws.
he doesn't have to many, if any, Ax combos here. so i don't think i have to worry about a chop.
should this have been a call?
it's hard to see him betting with 33-88 here, but it's possible. i have Jx here somewhat often. also, you'd think he'd check with most of those hands and weakish Jx (the strongest Jx he can even have is KJ) and let me bet my draws.. all he's really repping here 9x and 22. 22 would at least consider x/r flop.
i can definitely see him betting with a lot of his missed draws here, leaving him pretty unbalanced. i think that's a pretty common leak at these limits. at a quick glance, it seems to me like he should probably be checking his whole range here, and then x/r 9x, 22, and some straight draws.
he doesn't have to many, if any, Ax combos here. so i don't think i have to worry about a chop.
should this have been a call?
Final Pot
Odmincheg wins $2.53
Rake is $0.12
Rake is $0.12
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I think flop should be a check. Our opponent really isn't folding enough of his range on this flop to have a profitable cbet here and we have Ahi which can catch up if it isn't already the best hand. Probably just playing a super small pot here and giving up on a lot of turns and rivers. A5o we really just wanted to steal the blinds.
Played absolutely fine, especially on the basis that this is Zoom and people play fit-or-fold.
No it isn't, unless you know villain overfolds this board (which I found very unlikely) cbetting is horrible.
I would always check flop, not even close. Fun thing is I think our hand looks stronger if we check the flop as well since we got so many draws we can cbet/barell on this board.
Clearly we're never going to know that Villain overfolds this board since it's Zoom.
There are a lot of Turn cards that we can barrel, and it just turns out that the one we got wasn't one of them.
Cbetting isn't horrible, that's just forum hyperbole. I generally agree with your posts, but I don't agree with this one.
We can still make assumptions, that's something you have to do a lot as a poker player.
Since we probably got like every single combo of Axs and Axo pre. In which order would you rank A5o here when deciding which ones to cbet. You will just have too many aces, we got terrible equity when called. We'll only hit marginal value hands if even so, and this is quite good for villains range.
Try analyzing this spot with whatever tools you got and tell me how much you cbet in this situation, since imo it isn't even close. Which cards do you consider good to barell except a 3 or a 4 which isn't even that good.
No point in arguing about it. Good to know how other players are thinking about these situations.
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