Please critique my shove on the turn
Posted by LeeroyJenkins
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Please critique my shove on the turn
Cannot get the hand history to work. I am mainly concerned with my turn shove but any other criticism would be appreciated too.
888 Poker - $0.20 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 12.22, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 91)
UTG: 119.85 BB (VPIP: 8.93, PFR: 4.46, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 113)
Hero (UTG+1): 100 BB
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 12.96, PFR: 7.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 55)
MP+1: 204.6 BB (VPIP: 25.32, PFR: 17.72, 3Bet Preflop: 6.15, Hands: 159)
MP+2: 149.6 BB (VPIP: 60.87, PFR: 4.35, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 47)
CO: 174.45 BB (VPIP: 14.10, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 78)
BTN: 41.4 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 18.40, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 126)
SB: 111.4 BB (VPIP: 27.66, PFR: 14.89, 3Bet Preflop: 13.64, Hands: 47)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4c 4s
fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, MP+1 calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold
Flop : (7.5 BB, 2 players) 8s 2c 5d
Hero bets 5.6 BB, MP+1 calls 5.6 BB
Turn : (18.7 BB, 2 players) 4h
Hero bets 14 BB, MP+1 raises to 36 BB, Hero raises to 91.4 BB and is all-in, MP+1 calls 55.4 BB
River : (201.5 BB, 2 players) As
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Besides a set of 2s, what worse will call here?
dat flop bet is so awkward...
you have no barreling opportunities with this hand.. I think 44 is such a bad hand on this flop we need to check/fold dat hand and only bet hands that can improve to flushdraws or straightdraws.
maybe im wrong
lowcard boards also favor the caller so u want a high checking frequency on these boards
I duno, it does have the back door quad draw no?
;D
inside kappa draw
ye u sure u can take critig?
lol come on man the word that you are butchering is spelt right above you. Out of all the hands posted on here of people asking for help with what they did wrong, why do you feel the need to ask me if I am sure I can take it? Do you only post hands for pats on the back?
Overly optimistic cbet on the flop, reasonable, yet quite loose, open preflop.
Good turnbet, probably a call after getting raises on the turn, don't see a lot of merit in shipping.
Thanks I agree with you, especially about the c bet. I think I should have folded pre as 44 from UTG +1 seems pretty loose in hindsight?
With 100BB pre don't see a reason to fold Pre. Important to have small pocket pairs in your UTG 2Bet range. Flop!
Agree with the general consensus that you should be checking this flop. The check allows you to balance your range when you flop a set and decide to check back to trap. (Mind you you aren't checking to check raise) you're either check folding or check-calling (based on player tendencies).
As for the turn action, I'd probably bet on the smaller side. Lots of players will float the flop but can't call another 2/3 pot bet on the turn so in most situations I think a smaller bet is more +EV.
As for the Shove I think it's fine. He easily could've been making a move with air on a board that shouldn't connect well with your UTG raise. If he misses on the river he's likely to fold. However when you shove I think a number of worse hands both draws and over cards still find a fishy call.
x/call one street flop , x/call when 4 come on t urn ... x/call river ---
X/shove river with 67/88 on this 4 different color runout.
If you x/c 44 here I wonder what your x/c range looks like in this situation? Seems like it would be quite weak, what nut hands can you have?
Actually I would consider folding to this turnraise with my set.
A set is a set but if he raises me here I don't expect any bluffs especially fullring.
He probably has a higher set.
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