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Not happy with my stats

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Not happy with my stats

Hi, been lurking around but this is my first post. 

I've been playing NL100 Zoom and I have a bit of an issue with some of my stats. I'm not looking to get a whole stat analysis (well I won't dislike that :)) but rather sompe pin pointers on some specific issues which I will state bellow. 


 For the last 100k hands here are some vital stats:

bb/100: 2.87

VPIP: 22

PFR: 18

3bet: 6.3

Foldto3bet: 61

4bet: 9.1

WTSD: 24.5

WSD: 56


WWSF: 43.6

Cbet F: 61

Cbet T: 48

Cbet R: 49


First I'm satisfied with my winrate but I'm really out of touch with what people are making now days. Is it good or just so so?

I've been playing on and off for many years and when I look at my stats I always come back to my WWSF and WTSD both which imo are to low. But I just can't get my self to increase them. Seems like the best players have higher stats here, even the ones playing my nit style preflop (22/18)? I've read that I should be calling down more, looking to barrel more, be more aggressive in general but to be honest it really feels like I'm already doing that a lot. At points I even feel I'm bluffing to much. I've Come to a point where I just don't know what to do anymore in order to improve, but I really want to. Would like to be able to compete with the better regs at higher stakes but at the moment it feels like I'm very far behind, anyway when looking at my stats. I feel I have the mental game, I feel I'm thinking correct at the tables but I just don't know how to get better. 

I recently took a shot at NL200 Zoom and needless to say got slaughtered. I know I ran horrible but I'm sure part of it was also that the regs were better than me. I saw some regs playing more like 28/21 3 betting like crazy and having a WTSD of 30 and WWSF of 48. I wish I could be like that, lol. But whenever I try I just end up spewing like a maniac then I forget about stats and go back to playing my game and get a steady win and then finally back to looking at stats for the full circle :).

So I guess my conclusion is I need some help figuring how to go from here and more specifically how to improve some of my stats.

Thanks for a great site guys and girls


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RaoulFlush 11 years, 8 months ago

Well, imo your stats look pretty reasonable...

Just asking about the 4b stat...is it % or range? Range would be way too high i guess esp. for NL100 what ive seen the last months. Or maybe im just too nitty :)

Cbetting stats look fine, too imo...

But there is some important stats missing that go hand in hand with your SD stats and could be usefull...stuff like XR/F2XR (or fold CB to raise in general stats) and ofcourse your Fold to Cbet stats street by street. Cauze my (not too deep) experience so far of NL100 is that lowering your own CB stats and calling down more(as you already mentioned) is a pretty usefull strategy at these stakes. And there is still a lot of fishes (like me) that still CB too much and can be punished pretty well by XR light. THese numbers could give you a wink about your kind of low WTSD and WWSF stats i guess

Teddy 11 years, 8 months ago

Your stats look pretty solid to me, but I don't play much 6m these days. I think you are better off posting hands you are in doubt about, rather than stats, when nothing seem completely out of line. Posting positional stats would also help as there are tons of different ways you can get your 22/18.

PhilG86 11 years, 8 months ago

A good tool for checking how your stats stack up is PT4's leaktracker. It's worth playing around with to see how far from the 'norm' you are. As the other guys said I don't think your stats look bad at all. WWSF is normally a bit below 50% especially if there are a lot of multiway pots going on. The key thing is to get max value from the pots you do win.

james 11 years, 8 months ago

*grunch*

It looks like you're playing too tight (likely not opening enough from steal positions), potentially folding too many rivers or flops, not barreling enough on turns and rivers, and generally being too passive post flop.

vanity02 11 years, 8 months ago

This feels like the redline question everyone asks, "How do I get my redline positive?" 

bb/100: 2.87 Does it really matter?  hehe j/k But to answer in all seriousness. If you feel like your not bluffing, aggressive, calling down etc... Try reading some GTO stuff or practice balancing your ranges if you don't already, I think when I first started practicing this it forced me to bluff more, barrel more and sometimes hero call when I normally don't. But because its a "balanced" strategy, your exploitative nit style will balance itself out eventually where stats are lower than normal.

But if it isn't broken why fix it? I would take another shot at 200nl, if you said you ran bad maybe your style does work at 200nl and you probably wont need to fix anything.

vanity02 11 years, 8 months ago

Another thing is exploitative vs balanced what I like to call sword and shield hehe, when playing tougher regs I try to play the most balanced style(to my knowledge) so they never have an edge on me and can not exploit me until I start trying to exploite them(which is usually never lol) but against weaker regs it works wonders and I always straight up exploit bad players. 

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