[NL5z] - AA facing flop raise BTN vs BB
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[NL5z] - AA facing flop raise BTN vs BB
Blinds: $0.02/$0.05 (6 Players)
BN: $5.05 (Hero)
SB: $2.52
BB: $20.22
UTG: $4.89
MP: $5.58
CO: $16.06
SB: $2.52
BB: $20.22
UTG: $4.89
MP: $5.58
CO: $16.06
Preflop
($0.07)
Hero is BN with
A
A
, , ,
Flop
($0.26)
5
4
3
, , , , ,
Turn
($25.29)
5
4
3
9
River
($25.29)
5
4
3
9
6
Fairly sure this is standard but let me know what you guys think
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Would just call the flop raise and go from there. It's a bit hard for him to have bluffs when you have the Ah but you can never exclude random button clicking and Vs those players I prefer to keep their ranges wider instead of shoving and isolating against a stronger range. Getting it in is probably fine too though
Can't say I'm in love with the massive cbet on this flop. The bet-3bet line is a bit too much as well. On the other hand if we get it in we are never completely dead so I don't mind how you played it. I just think it's a bit overplayed.
Best case scenario:
Worst case scenario:
You left out BB's wheels and 2pairs
Fleetttt Sorry about the slow response. I left them out because I 3bet A5-A2s almost always in those positions. I also wasn't sure if 2p is played as aggressively on this board so I left them out of the equation as well.
Either way I don't think it matters much in terms of our equity.
Gotcha
Yea definitely not standard. It's a good board for BB. If they are defending wide they can have 2pair/straight and set combo's plus their bluffs have decent equity. By 3betting we really isolate ourselves vs a strong range.
I would call flop but tbh not happy about it since I think they will often be very polarised, especially at this limit.
This may be part of the problem you're having at 5nl. At 2nl you might be able to get this in (though I still doubt it) but 5nl facing this line/sizing you're looking at a nutted range most ott.
His range when he jams is something like this for the most part
Thanks for the feedback - do you not think BB sometimes takes this line with 66-TT though?
People will be more inclined to flat the flop 3b some amount and xc flop sometimes too so I think they're a fairly unlikely combos
Kinda prefer to see a turn first before I start committing here. He literally has every nutted combo in his range. He will have sets, 2 pair, straights. You can probably check some small % of time but I think betting accomplishes more here (can get value from his merged stuff like 77-TT, A5 by betting or checking, but betting benefits from fold equity + getting called by worse and they might call again on brick turns).
Size down on flop a bit. Maybe like .15 or so. You can call flop raise for a better price if you think he is raising merged or with draws. I would guess you would want to start betting bigger with maybe top 2+ here, maybe even as strong as bottom set and adding in some weakish FD+ gutter or OESD+ FD like 86hh. Hands with a 6 seem like ok bluff candidates since they would block 66 and 76 and 65 and still have an OESD.
I agree with the calling the flop raise but should we not bet bigger on the flop because it's good for villain's range so we want to be polarised? If we bet .15 aren't we just betting polarised for a small sizing which means villain can call with a very large part of his range?
I guess bet sizing is debatable. To me, AA with heart blocker can be sized down because you block both the FD's he can have and you block the FD's completing. He is going to have like 24 "nutty" combos (2 pr+). He has an 8 out draw with 66, he has a 6 out draw with 22 (you block two of his outs). He has like 66-TT maybe and the rest of his range is going to consist of draws. You crush his calling range really but you are in bad shape vs. his raising range. My reasoning is, betting smaller accomplishes the same things as betting bigger (his air folds regardless of sizing really). But vs. his raising range (nutted stuff and semi bluffs), you can call more on the flop when the bet sizing(s) are smaller. There are some good cards for you on the turn (A or hearts) which you might be able to continue on.
I would call flop and see what develops. When he raises you, your hand becomes a bluff-catcher. You block some straights and flushes, which is good.
If he slows down on later streets, you're in position and can get more money in anyway.
I am reading the comments but noone talks about raising A2o. Don't you think he'd call this one preflop. And since people from what I see call more than they should in these stakes, don't you think he might be having here 76o as well. Basically, what range would BB have here preflop?
A2o and 76o are most likely also in some opponent's ranges. In which case things look even worse for hero's hand.
It's hard to put villain on an exact range without a more concrete assessment by OP. And it obviously depends on many factors including his preflop defending range and his flop check-raising frequency.
He could be check-raising this range:
Or things could be really bad and he only check-raises this:
flop 3bet is terrible
This is definitely not standard. This board hits bb range well and equities should run close. You have bad removal blocking no sets, 2p, straights...when you face x/r thats what they’re repping against your pot size bet on flop...you should call and hope they slow down or you pick up equity...also, a solver might put this in check range if it was AA no heart. You need to size down with range in general on this board...something like half pot that allows you to value bet wider and protect your equity with a hand like 88 but not so large you isolate against the strongest part of villain range
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