NL50 Zoom: Overpair on river in 3-bet pot
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NL50 Zoom: Overpair on river in 3-bet pot
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50 (6 Players)
BN: $82.79
SB: $50.00
BB: $56.00
UTG: $59.09
MP: $64.64 (Hero)
CO: $91.54
SB: $50.00
BB: $56.00
UTG: $59.09
MP: $64.64 (Hero)
CO: $91.54
Preflop
($0.75)
Hero is MP with
T
T
, , , ,
Flop
($8.25)
8
4
8
,
Turn
($16.41)
8
4
8
5
,
River
($38.85)
8
4
8
5
7
,
Final Pot
BB wins $36.91
Rake is $1.94
Rake is $1.94
Flop and turn is standard. I think i should maybe have called River but folded because his Ajs+ in Clubs got there, and KK/AA might still bet for value as well. In game didnt think he had enough bluffs. If no club on river i think i need to call. But i am still pretty high in my range so maybe i still need to call for unexploitability?
Thoughts appreciated
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Any info on Villain?
I think this river is particularly bad for you. I can't think of a single value bet that you beat. This is probably your one of your best one-pair hands here (maybe you have JJ in your range as well?), so it's close. Perhaps call TT with a club and fold otherwise.
Thanks for your reply. No reads on villain and multitabling. I would 4bet JJ mostly, like 75% maybe. Calling with a Club i presume is to block his At (or maybe also Kts and JTs) . that seems very reasonable
Seems well played. Against a solid BB vs MP 3b range, you are in pretty bad shape on turn (assuming he is Bluffing FD's and value betting his overpairs). He is going to be low on bluffs here so if he expands to a few bluffs of other suits, the turn will be a call. He has 21-24 combos of overpairs and 6 or 7 BD flush draws he can follow through with on the turn. He would have to follow through on the turn with a lot of non club/club hands to get anywhere near being balanced.
River I am folding all combos of TT. I don't think he will have all that much JTs or ATs where the blocker will have much effect. I can potentially get behind making JcJx calls in this spot but he still probably needs a few "pure" bluffs. You would potentially block AJcc, KJcc and QJcc and he might have pair combos (TT) in his range that you would dominate.
Thanks - i like your reasoning. Against most opponents here who play more straight forward in 3bet pots, you think he will be so value heavy on turn that i can overfold, also TT? didnt think about that but it sounds legit
I think a 3bet pre to $18, if he 4bets you're crushed, if he just calls then you know he's JJs, A10s+, KQs,, AKo and maybe AQo if he's looser.
It would be a 4 bet, not a 3b. Problem with 4 betting is that there is very little fold equity. Might get a fold out of AQs or something, but that's about it. I expect BB to be completely linear in nature here. MP open range is still a little bit too narrow to start introducing polar stuff into his 3b range.
Dont think i want to 4bet here, it would basically be a bluff and the hand is too good for that and plays bad postflop with such an inflated pot. I prefer to use suited wheel aces as 4bet bluffs to balance my value range as when im flatted im sometimes flopping some decent equity that i can continue with. Also would not 4bet such large size
I'll preface this by saying im a scrub.
Do you think he is ever bluffing with his overpairs here? I dont think we beat any of his value, as other posts have said. I think its pretty close between a call and a fold depending on what bluffs you give villain here.
I think he often checks rivers with overpairs as he has good showdown value and can find other hands to bluff
How are your preflop ranges designed there? Most people would flat on those positions 100% JJ and below and call frequently AK,QQ+ too.
If thats true in your case too then its fold as you have plenty stronger hands on river -with his preflop sizing and line you arrive on river with majority of your 44-88, you will have also some JJ+ so I dont see any reason to bluffcatch TT especially when river card hits part of his bluffing range.
i would 4bet JJ like maybe 75% and call 25% . TT always a call
are you playing on stars? If yes then I think regs defend BB too passively to even think about 4bet/calling witth Jacks.
Even then I think its fold - your worst hands on river with this line would be probably 99/TT and then maybe few AQ. To call there he should be overbluffing but then his only natural bluff there is probably AK with club so I think its clear fold.
It is unlikely that the villain bets three streets with a complete bluff against an UTG 3 bet caller. Some good players might as it is a low board that hits UTG range not good and they have a range advantage, but then they also would value bet KK+ here for the same reason for sure. So even if the player is capable to bluff here he is prob also capable to thin value bet here.
Against most players though you are just beat.
For me it is a clear fold with TT.
Good point about players able to understand range advantages are also able to value bet more thinly . thanks
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