NL50 top set vs whale on 986s 160bb deep

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NL50 top set vs whale on 986s 160bb deep

Blinds: $0.25/$0.50 (5 Players) SB: $50.00
BB: $50.00
UTG: $178.68
CO: $132.17
BN: $81.87 (Hero)
Preflop ($0.75) Hero is BN with 9 9
UTG folds, CO raises to $1.00, Hero calls $1.00, 2 folds
Flop ($2.75) 9 6 8
CO checks, Hero bets $2.09, CO raises to $5.18, Hero raises to $14.52, CO raises to $30.11, Hero raises to $80.87 and is all in, CO calls $50.76
Turn ($164.49) 9 6 8 3
River ($164.49) 9 6 8 3 K
Final Pot CO wins and shows a straight, Six to Ten.
BN lost and shows three of a kind, Nines.
CO wins $161.49
Rake is $3.00

Should we ever stop raising OTF? If we call and a scarecard comes, we lose value against overpair+ hands. I decided to get it in but I'm not sure if calling the checkraise might be better. He's 54/27 with 0.7 AF over 110 hands.

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conoval 8 years, 8 months ago

I prefer 3bet preflop with so strong hand Vs min raise and 54/27.

X/r reraise is nuts. I don't like his agresion.

If villain fish there is 32 combos of straights. And 9 combos of 88/66/98o and 9 combos of 86o. I don't think villain have any draws according to his agresion.
Also in game I prefer check his cbet, Wsf, w$sd. If cbet is high (more often cbet 2pairs and sets) and high w$sd, I think we can call it by pot ods.

GunnJD 8 years, 8 months ago

I don't know, at a certain point even a fish/whale's range becomes quite isolated.

Part of me likes flatting the 3b to keep his range wide and allow for further mistakes on later streets.

We can certainly construct a range where we're doing quite well getting it in flop, but I just think even fish think twice about sticking 160 bb in here with AA.

greedisgood 8 years, 8 months ago

I agree with 3betting pre 150bb deep vs a whale IP. makes it easier to GII on these flops as well. As played I don't think I'm getting it in OTF, all tough I'm raising but I prefer him to bet or us when he checks.

elbabbelino 8 years, 8 months ago

What is your reason for not 3betting preflop? Personally, I don't see why you flat there.
I like your 3b on flop, yet would flat his 4b. That said, I don't think it matters too much. Don't think he folds that often after X/r+4b on flop, so if you think you are ahead (which is debatable but reasonable versus a whale) you might as well push flop. Simultaneously, I don't think you lose that much value if you flat and scary cards arrive. He is a whale, so much money is already invested and SPR is so small. Which is why i don't think theres a big discrepancy between your strategie options after your 3b on the flop.

Yet preflop you most likely lose a lot of value by flatting, so I would be more concerned about your decision there.

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