NL50 SH set deep mw
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NL50 SH set deep mw
BN: $79.97
SB: $76.05 (Hero)
BB: $133.60
UTG: $58
HJ: $57.07
CO: $50
SB: $76.05 (Hero)
BB: $133.60
UTG: $58
HJ: $57.07
CO: $50
Preflop
($0.75)
(6 Players)
Hero was dealt
2
2
UTG raises to $1.50, HJ folds, CO folds, BN calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.25, BB folds
UTG raises to $1.50, HJ folds, CO folds, BN calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.25, BB folds
Flop
($5.00)
5
6
2
(3 Players)
Hero checks,
UTG checks,
BN bets $3,
Hero raises to $9.50,
UTG folds,
BN calls $6.50
Turn
($24.00)
5
6
2
7
(2 Players)
Hero bets $14.50,
BN calls $14.50
River
($53.00)
5
6
2
7
7
(2 Players)
Hero bets $50.50
hey guys, this is my first hand here. I hope everything is alright ;)
I think its pretty standart till River and my question is is this River a standart shove this deep? cant see him calling much worse like 78 or some hero calls maybe?
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I don't like the river shove tbh. Given the action on flop/turn/river you _allways_ have a full house when shoving the river. So your range is pretty face up 55/66/22/76 which allows him to play perfectly against it (fold weaker hands like 34,78 and call with better full houses) and you are at the bottom of your range (worst full house). I can't see him hero calling with 34 or 78 here.
So river is either a check/fold or something like 1/5 pot blocking bet/fold as he will never ever push the river with worse hands like 34 or 78.
I don't see the reason why you would check/fold your full house on the river. I'd bet around $22 to give a straight good odds, as well as trips, and then consider folding if he shoved, but you're giving up too much value by x/f.
Another valid play would be to x/c, since you would be representing a flopped two pair that got counterfeited on the river, which could very well induce your opponent to bluff.
The reason "why you would check/fold a full house" is because it's the worst possible full house and villain will most likely check his overpair, straight or tripps behind. I'd only bet a medium sized bet if villain is a total fish and able to call with his straight.
I get that the hand is turned up if we shove the river, but our range is wider if we check or bet small, which would justify a x/c.
yeah, I dont think we can c/f river. There is only 8 total combos of FH/Quads that beat us, and I think we can discount that a little bit, as I think 77/66 are getting it in on the turn. Even if he has them all tho hes going to bluff 4x hands occasionally, and value bet the few 7x he has that I think we definitely have to call anything that isnt close to a shove. I guess if he shoves its a pretty awful spot and then I can see arguments for folding but I dont think we get shoved on, because when we check we dont look like a hand thats calling a shove (so then we prolly should call a shove)
C/f the river is absurd...it may b the worst full house but its still a full house...checking the river is not horrible but with the intention of folding to a bet is rediculous....y r u playing if ur gonna fold a boat on the river....u should b leading out here since ur oop and he might check behind and when that happens ur losing a ton of value....river bet should b anywhere from half pot to 60% to get weaker hands to call...in poker u have to maximize profits and minimize losses....u do that and ull b profitable long term....
The problem with shoving is your hand is super obvious, and you are basically hoping to get paid off by a hand like 87 or JJ from a bad player, but we dont know if hes bad. I think we do better by betting smaller and just getting crying calls from those hands and widen his range a bit, like lots of players wont find a fold with 99 here to a $20 bet. I think his range for calling a bet is wider than the times we induce a bluff by checking, cuz really his only bluff hands are 33/44/A4s, which isnt a lot, he might not call turn with 33 and he wont always bluff anyway
You played it fine. I think ppl have trouble folding JJ to 3 barrels, nevermind 87s.
If you could fire 3 barrels and get your opponent to always fold everything worse than a boat on this board, then you could take this line with KQo.
Edit: Size bigger on turn. You lay him a better price on the river and his turn calling range isn't going to be very sensitive to your sizing in the $14-17 region.
ty guys
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