NL50 - Donking top two turn and got raised

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NL50 - Donking top two turn and got raised

HJ: $52.15
CO: $53.35
BN: $36.35
SB: $71.40 (Hero)
BB: $53.50
UTG: $50
Preflop ($0.75) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt K A
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO folds, BN raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1.25, BB folds
Jus
Flop ($3.50) K 9 8 (2 Players)
Hero checks, BN bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50
Turn ($6.50) A (2 Players)
Hero bets $4.55, BN raises to $14.50, Hero raises to $45.45, BN calls $18.85
River ($89.85) J (2 Players)
Final Pot
BN wins $70.20 , Hero wins $16.65

-Preflop i am trapping the BB who is sqeezing too much.

-Flop is missplayed i should raise this small bet 4 value because this bet shouldnt be a strong madehand

-Turn: i am donking the turn for value because i think his calling range > his betting range also i am balancing some semibluffs i play like this... the raise sucks and callin is no option in this spot with this stacksizes. i have close to no flushes in this spot in my percieved range because i am 3betting most of combinations possible. i could have some sets there. while mutlitabling i thought i cant fold AK here vs his wide buttonrange and shoved. but in retrospectiv i think its maybe too close?

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secondhander 11 years, 10 months ago

Yuck, on a few points imo.

You can 3bet preflop, although I understand your trapping reasoning. 

On flop, I'd rather c/r. It's a draw-heavy flop, and you most likely are ahead here. No sense in just flatting the flop. 

Given that you c/c, I think you ought to now c/r on the turn, or maybe c/c. What are you trying to rep by leading the turn? What do you think he can call with that you beat? 

When you lead the turn, you are reping a made draw. V might expect you to lead the turn if you hit a flush, but he may think you are either donk-betting the flush, or betting a paired A (which you are). 

I think what you said about "calling range vs. betting range" sort of goes out the window when you are reping something that he can't call unless he's ahead. So I think his betting range that you beat is > than his calling range that you beat. 

His calling range that you beat is small. Pretty much Ax. So he folds most of his range here if you are ahead, and calls or re-raises with better hands. 

If you c/r the turn and get re-raised, you can get away from it.

But once you leade the turn and get re-raised, it's fairly tough for him to be bluff-raising you here. As played, you sort of turn your hand into a bluff on the turn, but reping something strong. I don't think you are beating anything that re-raises you here and I think this is a fold.

Chael Sonnen 11 years, 10 months ago

I'd definitely 3-bet this pre, even with a squeeze happy BB.
Check-raise the flop for value/protection.
Don't lead the turn. As played, just check-call.

The pot is 6.50. You're not getting in 90 dollars here and be ahead very often. Under repped hand or not.

WM2K 11 years, 10 months ago

Basically this. Not 3 betting is pretty tragic and then leading the turn just doesnt make sense. This is a really good barrel card for villain. 

Once you take this ridiculous line and get raised your in trouble. I would be pretty tempted to throw it away right now.

secondhander 11 years, 10 months ago

@chael Sonnen and WM2K

Is a c/c on the turn better than a c/r because a c/r turns our value into a bluff rep too much? What is the thought-process on the c/c vs. c/r decision here? And if we c/c and the river bricks (say, 2c) and we face a bet, what is the best line?  

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