NL50, 3bet pot with AQ, board AQxxK
Posted by Samu Patronen
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NL50, 3bet pot with AQ, board AQxxK
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50 (6 Players)
BN: $50.75
SB: $33.03
BB: $53.89
UTG: $52.42
MP: $55.84
CO: $72.07 (Hero)
SB: $33.03
BB: $53.89
UTG: $52.42
MP: $55.84
CO: $72.07 (Hero)
Preflop
($0.75)
Hero is CO with
Q
A
, , , ,
Flop
($9.25)
A
Q
2
,
Turn
($20.75)
A
Q
2
9
,
River
($45.25)
A
Q
2
9
K
,
Preflop, flop and turn pretty standard, doesn't really make sense to do anything else that I did.
River is tough. My first instinct was to fold, but then I talked myself into calling. AK is very likely, then there's 1 combo of AA and QQ. I ended up calling because villain might still shove AQ for value, maybe even A9, and he might turn like KT into a bluff. Would you find a fold here?
River is tough. My first instinct was to fold, but then I talked myself into calling. AK is very likely, then there's 1 combo of AA and QQ. I ended up calling because villain might still shove AQ for value, maybe even A9, and he might turn like KT into a bluff. Would you find a fold here?
Final Pot
BB
wins and shows three of a kind, Queens.
CO lost and shows two pair, Aces and Queens.
BB wins $105.53
Rake is $2.50
CO lost and shows two pair, Aces and Queens.
BB wins $105.53
Rake is $2.50
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First of all, hide results pls.
Always hard to say without any reads. First of all? How wide does he 3Bet from BBvsCO? Is he able to tripple barrle with a wide range? A spewtard? If so then it´s a call.
If he is a solid Reg with a 5% 3Betrange BBvsCO then it´s a fold OTR. A solid reg would may tripple barrel JTs to balance his valueheawy range here which also gets there OTR. You beat nothing here (AJ is x/C OTF or is cbetting and x/c turn) and calling for a split isnt a good result. Vs solid guys//unknown Regs it´s a clean fold OTR.
I think this is a crying fold OTR in a vacuum. Why he 3ple bluff-barrel in 3betted pot without any reads? Probably a bluff play OTF and OTT, but when he push OTR his range his probably QQ+, AQ+, (JT?) and? A9 probably X the flop (in a vacuum), same for all broadways <2P and PPs.
Sucks but looks like a fold. Board is still rainbow OTT so his bluffs get reduced significantly. Smthing like KJ/KT don't belong in his 3betting range frequently enough + he might not even turn them into a bluff OTR just because it's "SDV".
Have in mind this is after all CO vs BB. If villain was SB (which is likely to increase his 3betting range ~twice if not more) then I think we'd need to call.
Yeah I do agree with you. It's hard for villain to have bluffs on the river...
Btw, how would you construct your bluffing range on the river here (if you were villain)? It's pretty hard to be balanced here because we don't really want to be double barreling with a lot of crap on the turn...
We have QQ/KK/AA/AK/AQ for value, where do we find our bluffs?
The only bluffs we can have are KJ/KT and with our value range being pretty much only Ax (while his calling range is pretty much only Ax as well) he'll often have a good blocker bluff-catcher so therefore making it not the greatest spot for bluffing.
If we fold AQ we are folding 100% otr if we are 4bing premiums.
We have JTs, but yeah, we're folding a ton if we fold this. However, the problem with my call is that it's pretty easy to have an unbalanced range here in villains shoes (towards valuehands). Villains perceived 3betting range is weighted towards highcard hands and all of those connect this board one way or the other. And there are not a lot of air hands in villains range since a lot of those are not double barreling this board because those hands don't have a lot of equity on the flop/turn.
We are folding 100% of our range on this specific board and not vs his B, B, B line. Is this a problem if we are behind?
what about we have read that enemy dont play GTO and he dont have bluff range with this line,we fold all our range here .everything else is mistake.Yes or no?
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Still sometimes i dont understand how work with GTO if we have good reads again oponnent.
example:Villian never make 3street bluff,just never.
than when he make 3 streets bet,we must fold all blufcatcher and call only with very good hand (We dont use GTO) if we call here with some bluffcacher we bleeding money...
And how long time take villian for taking the info that we never call river with bluffchatcher and start use expoitable tactic with add some 3street bluff (maybe never)
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Yeah, if villain doesn't have a bluffing range, we should not call with bluffcatchers, ever.
Be balanced when you don't have reads. When you have reads, exploit the shit out of villain and forget GTO.
Looks like a fold. I don't see much of a bluffing range otr, and he doesn't vbet worse.
Not that many regs at 50nl gonna realize you`re range is capped and barrel this runout relentlessly so folding is fine.
Better strat would be to flat some premiums (1/2 QQ+AK, 1/3 AA combos for example), and overfold other portions of your range rather then defend optimal or close to it.
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