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Blinds: $0.02/$0.05 (6 Players) BN: $5.00
SB: $5.43
BB: $5.78
UTG: $5.00 (Hero)
MP: $5.47
CO: $2.65
Preflop ($0.07) Hero is UTG with A 7
Hero raises to $0.15, 2 folds, BN calls $0.15, SB calls $0.13, BB folds
BN is 33/22 (9) probably reg because he was hiding.
SB is 44/22(9) but it is fish and he played limp.
So i think that my open raise is fine with A7s from utg.
Flop ($0.50) 3 J 5
SB checks, Hero checks, BN checks
I don't have any draw and I don't think that I have a lot of fold equity.
Reg can have Jx QQ pocket pairs, maybe 46s.
Sb could hit this board too and I have weak SD value.
So I decided don't bluff,
Turn ($0.50) 3 J 5 2
SB checks, Hero checks, BN bets $0.24, SB folds, Hero calls $0.24
On the turn. I think I have less FE then on the flop and bu bet.
I think if he had Jx he probably will bet flop, because he wants to get value from fish.
I have gutshot and my hand will be able to be the best.
So I decided to play call.

what do you think about turn?
River ($0.98) 3 J 5 2 6
Hero checks, BN checks

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Cozacu 9 years, 9 months ago

First of all I think opening A7s from UTG is way to wide unless you are facing an overly nity table that you shouldn't play in the first place.

Then calling turn only makes sense if you think A high is good and villain is inclined to check back river with most of his range, otherwise you could find a fold. (but Im not sure, Im not opening A7s from utg)

IluxaVag 9 years, 9 months ago

why not? I think we want to play vs weak player and if you don't have very aggressive villains in position I think it'll be profitable because weak player will be oop and we have pretty playability hand.

Cozacu 9 years, 9 months ago

A7s is a playable hand but now from UTG.
BN is 33/22 - is most likely a fish not a reg and with his stats there is a good chance you`ll be playing the hand OOP... and then there is MP and CO which could either flat you or raise you.

A7s is not a hand to play from UTG... check out some training videos on constructing PF ranges... I don't think I`ve seen anyone advocating opening as wide as A7s from UTG.

weeeeee 9 years, 9 months ago

i am inclined to say to that A7s is a little too wide to play in 5nl. I used to think this route that I "play vs weak player" would be a profitable for me too. In 5nl, you want to really work on winrate on the long term, not the session.

In the long term, it's not worth it profitably to do that UTG in any game. It is a risk to your winrate and I personally wouldn't do it. It be far more profitable to fold that pre and play a bit more patient to play more profitable hands. You risk too many good hands that won't fold and A7 doesn't flop well imo and just hard to play OOP against the remainder of players with their range.

I would advise to not think in terms of the session you are in, but in the long term. It's ok for a fold.

Limp Limpson 9 years, 9 months ago

Ive seen videos advocating opening all suited Ax from all positions.
I dont think it matters too much. Open's profitability is given by player's postflop skill. A decent player can get away with a lot at nl10. A worse player can be losing with this open.
A player can improve by getting into more marginal spots and analyzing them later on. That said, folding is certainly also fine.

sauloCosta10 9 years, 9 months ago

Yeah A7s is probably too wide. If you think it can be played profitably, just play thousands of A7s from UTG and then go check tour database. Its the easiest way to fins out ((: as played, I think post flop is fine. A high will be good sometimes OTT

taaazz 9 years, 9 months ago

Preflop is an easy open at nl5 vs any setup, but it obv depends on your postflop skill.

I don't mind the turn call, but it depends on how wide he stabs/barrels rivers. Given it's 3way + worse Ahi usually stab the flop, and there aren't that many bluffs in reg's range, but there's a wider vbetting range because of the fish and your XB, I'd fold.

Cozacu 9 years, 9 months ago

Taz can you give us some info on the profitability of A7s from UTG ? I assume you have a large enough sample, I`m curios how well can A7s actually do from utg.

lettu 9 years, 9 months ago

Pre should be slightly +ev with fish in blinds. I dont know why people focus on pre here though.
Turn seems bad, he can have some weaker Jx and playing hands like 99, TT make a bit of sense, with the fish on the pot and for that sizing. And besides that A7 is very weak and down in your range here. Also villain could easily bet some better Ax hands, weather it is good or not, which is even worse for us.
Also I would level just a tiny bit that this is more of a thin value rather than a bluff sizing for villain.
I would need something like AK, AQ to start considering calling.

Chael Sonnen 9 years, 8 months ago

Fold the turn, as you even lose to the better Ax than bluff.
Definitely bluff the river, as Villian has almost no straights, and you are at the bottom of your range.
You can make him fold better Ahighs, and middle pairs, maybe a Jack.

Massive overbet if you really want to be cool, but let's just stick with a normal bet. :)

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