NL400 SH: well I guess I take a strange line

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NL400 SH: well I guess I take a strange line

UTG: 496.07
HJ: 652.85
CO: 462.28
BN: 451.67 (Hero)
SB: 520.67
BB: 504.50
SB is usually playing NL100 and starts shooting NL200 and 400. He's not scared, he's more the kind of player expecting regs of higher limits to shit on him, therefore making him willing to play back. He 3b 7% SB.
I assume he considers me good and widely agressive, but as I said that doesn't mean he'll play only for value against me as some players do.
BB seems to be an agressive recreational player (played 55/10 with 18% 3b over 50 hands, did bet/3b twice on the turn against me when I can credibly rep strong).
Preflop (6) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt A J
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO folds, Hero raises to 10, SB calls 8, BB folds
Flop (24) 7 J T (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets 12, SB raises to 44, Hero raises to 82
I do consider his big XR strong. I don't think AJ is good very often here. Instead of calling flop and folding most turns, I elected to turn my hand into a bluff flop, with the possibility of checking back some turns and bluffing some runouts (I think hearts, 9 and maybe 8 are good bluff cards. Hitting and A should give me the best hand).
Also I think vilain is not experienced enough to recognize that he can let me hang myself if he doest have a flopped straight or a set, so I think he'll just shove that and usually call with the rest of his range.

I like the 3b because vilain is unlikely to have JJ/TT imo, even with the fish BB, he's way more likely to 3b than to call when I have position, a very wide range and a skill edge. He also has only the 98s combos of straight, whereas I can have all of them.

IDK maybe I'm off and he'll just shove JT or any good draw on the flop, which would make my 3b pretty bad.

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PaulPanther 11 years, 1 month ago

i dont like it at all. especially with the Ah (less semibluffs on his side). i dont like the small cbet size on this kind of flop texture against his SB coldcall and i wouldnt percive his XR size as strong, it looks very standard for me.

i would call

yoren 11 years, 1 month ago

I wonder if you should be either happily bet/calling, happily bet/folding, or checking back flop depending on what assumptions you are making about your opponent. The thing about this board and a typical sb's flatting range is that it connects very hard with this board, which means the sb can raise a large fraction of the time with a tough range and put hands like AJ and better (which is highish in your range, but not that high, i think) in a shit spot.

Exploring the checking back flop scenario a bit, what you'll find is that you'll have a lot of trivial decisions (a choice clearly has the highest EV) on a bunch of turn cards. 

I also feel that there is a marked difference between a 7JThhs flop and a 6JThhs flop. On the first board, if his value range is JTs/77/98s, then 98s represent 4/9ths of his value range. On the second board, the sb has fewer good semibluffing combinations, making it easier for you to call down and making it harder for him to go after the more vulnerable portions of your flop value range.

If you look at the hands better than AJ that are in his c/r range, you might quickly rethink your plan to bluff. Trying to get someone off JT seems like a lost cause.


PokerIsHard 11 years, 1 month ago

I b/f flop, or check it back.


I don't like the flop sizing (versus a fish with AIR, it is fine, because he will snap fold 66-, small SCs, some Ax, and call everthing else) .

As played, I hate the 3B, he can ship so many hands.


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