NL400 Full Ring QQ
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NL400 Full Ring QQ
SB: $210.26 (52.6 bb)
BB: $424.52 (106.1 bb)
UTG+1: $447.70 (111.9 bb)
UTG+2: $497.29 (124.3 bb)
MP1: $238.05 (59.5 bb)
MP2: $331.05 (82.8 bb)
MP3: $386.60 (96.7 bb)
Hero (CO): $400 (100 bb)
BTN: $400 (100 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with Qc Qs
4 folds, MP3 raises to $12, Hero raises to $36, BTN calls $36, 3 folds
MP3 is a weaker recreational player. BTN is a 23/17 winning reg and his range should be a bit tigher here but I think could still include hands like KQs/KJs/T9s and the like since MP3 is likely to call along as well so it'll be 3way with BTN having position.
Flop: ($90) 3h 5d Ah (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks
I choose to check/call my 99-KK here and balance it by check/calling weaker Axs as well as AT/AJ. But villain checks too.
Turn: ($90) 8h (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $48, Hero calls $48
I'm not sure what's best here between betting and check/calling. Check/calling keeps his bluff range wide and I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that BTN delay bluffs this Ax board. He could also be betting Kh/Qh, which I think bet most of the time when checked to as opposed to seeing a free river. However, I could be convinced that betting is the better play so I don't give any free cards to a marginal/bluff catchy range but if called, I wasn't sure if the river would have been a check/call or check/fold given his range should pretty much be some weakish Ax or KhX/QhX.
River: ($186) 3s (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $148, Hero calls
Villain bets very large here, large enough that I don't think most players would choose this sizing with a hand like AJ/AQ and those hadns may bet the flop as well. It's pretty unlikely he checked through the flop with a FD, a set, or A3 so unless he coldcalled my PF 3bet with A8s or 88, I'm having trouble putting him on a hand for value. My range appears to be rather weak/bluff-catchy and face-up so I would expect him to bet quite large with most of his betting range.
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ya i just c/f riv his range is already narrow enough when he cold calls the 3b id prolly bet like 30$ otf and try to show down after that
Don't like the check on the flop, because you are so face up, and you can take a small street of value versus 99-JJ.
As played, I x/f turn, I don't think he will bet worse for value, and I don't think he have any bluff in his range.
River seems very spewy.
Also, I don't think the fact that I can take a small street of value versus 99-JJ is a good enough reason to bet flop since I can likely get that street of value later on as well and those hands have very little equity making a flop check not that dangerous.
In a 3b pot I think you would be better off balancing your 99-KK by c betting flop and checking turn. You can then check fold/raise/call rivers. Especially with the hh board I would never expect you to check an A and give two players a free card.
I don't mind checking the flop with a balanced range. Like how you played the hand. Now fold river since you have a bunch of better hands to call here with. Don't think you have to be looking to make an explo call here either unless you have some specific reads or villain is very bluff happy on the river.
Reasoning for playing the hand is sound OP, but makes the hand very tough to play ; basically it's EV+, but vilain will have an easy time putting us in a tough spot. We're too faced up indeed. So there's merit in betting anyway, just to prevent us from totally letting the control of the hand to opponent.
As played, I usually fold, but vs some players I'll make a decision based on my image vs them and their propensity to bluff when they feel like losing at showdown (some players just give up, others dont have the heart for giving up).
"Villain will have an easy time taking us in a tough spot"
I can see that a lot of you are writing this as if it were a bad thing, but what do you actually mean?
Is he bluffing too much? Cause then it will not be tough at all.
Betting KK seems like putting this hand in a range, where it doesnt belong at all, instead of just keeping it where it perfoms greatly (the checking range).
Yes, we dont check a lot of nutted hands apart from AA, but that is not a problem, since we just bluff catch accordingly and villain cant just overly exploit us (of course when we check, villain almost always has a profitable bluff, but thats okay, he risked 36 preflop to get in the profitable spot).
I would cbet then shut down because I suck.
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