nl400 Embarrasing hand

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nl400 Embarrasing hand

LJ: $432
HJ: $652.19
CO: $406
BN: $408.83
SB: $565.99
BB: $532.58 (Hero)
UTG: $125.12
UTG1: $307.58
UTG2: $632.48
Preflop ($6.00) (9 Players)
Hero was dealt K K
UTG folds, UTG1 folds, UTG2 raises to $12, LJ folds, HJ calls $12, CO folds, BN calls $12, SB folds, Hero raises to $60, UTG2 calls $48, HJ folds, BN folds
Flop ($150.00) A 8 T (2 Players)
Hero checks, UTG2 bets $92, Hero calls $92
Turn ($334.00) A 8 T 4 (2 Players)
Hero checks, UTG2 bets $192, Hero calls $192
River ($718.00) A 8 T 4 7 (2 Players)
Hero checks, UTG2 bets $288.48, and is all in, Hero folds
Final Pot
UTG2 wins $711.20

Its a little embarrasing have to fold the river when i have 4.79:1 (17%) odds to call in the river. By i don´t see how i could play different. I would play AxKh by the same way like a frecquency of 100% probably.

My range are all the AxKh, KxKh.. 

At the turn his range is: 

Ah8hTh4d Equity 76.14% 76.14% 0.00% { TT, 88, AQs, AQo }MP3 23.86% 23.86% 0.00% { KhKc }

Turn call is close, but i could count my implode odds of getting the nuts and lead the river. Dont think he gonna call always, but sometimes might be. And sometimes ( but rarely) he even could have a bluff which i think will not bluff me again in a blank river, when i look so commited.

I ve been playing this villain for a long, right now i think i have an aggresive dinamic, so im pretty sure that he is shiping pre AK always, maybe Jacks too. His call 3bet range could be something like pairs up to tens, AQo+, AJs+, KQs.

Aside quiestions: 

How would you act next hands in different streets ? 

1) QQ (no heart) xF flop ? 

2) QQ ( with heart ) xC flop + xF turn ? 

3) KK ( no heart) xC or Bet flop ?

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Royallus 11 years, 10 months ago

Well the way I feel is, if you elect to take a blufcatcher line you should have some extra reasons aside from your relative hand strength and your own perceived range. You eliminate some hands out of his range, but I do no read anything about how your think villain will react on this flop texture + board run out + your blufcatcher line. 

If you do not have a good feel for those tendencies, I would take a more standard line and CB this flop and take it from there...


James Hudson 11 years, 10 months ago

Looks good. Turn call is closeish but still seems like a call to me.

1)  Probably not putting any money in the pot.

2)  Probably check calling flop and check folding turn though it'll depend on villain's turn sizing.

3) With KK without a heart I think it plays almost exactly the same as QQ without a heart. Villain likely 4 bets KK pre so I think whatever strategy you decide on for queens should likely be the same for kings.

PGalfondFollower 11 years, 10 months ago

i think its exploitable to always check call QQ,KK OTF. if u r facing a reg, squeeze from blinds and stop aggression OTF like this simply announce to the world, I dont have an Ace. if u bet flop 40percent of time when u have KK,QQ, imo its easier to play later streets.As u always check this spot,just a moment later they will know ur line pretty well.

Also wish to hear opinions from others about my point.

James Hudson 11 years, 10 months ago

"if u r facing a reg, squeeze from blinds and stop aggression OTF like this simply announce to the world, I dont have an Ace"

Do it with an ace or potentially aces sometimes then :)


Juan Copani 11 years, 10 months ago

I feel if i bet KhK in this spot im spliting my range in a very explotative way. I would be folding when i check almost always. I dont wanna meke his life so easy.


PGalfondFollower 11 years, 10 months ago

Why i make that statement is that when u squeeze from such bad position as blinds, ur range that ur opponent perceives is simply AK, AQ, TT - AA. 

James' comment is good in that u may check some AK,AQ,AA to balance ur check range. BUT this will also limit ur betting range to AK,AQ,AA unless u bet some TT - KK.

If we come back to this particular hand. The flop is monotone and nearly nobody will check AK,AQ,AA to give ur opponent a free turn. So with the above range, I guess i will bet all of them.

Royallus 11 years, 10 months ago

Still my point being, choose opponents against who you have a range which includes cbetting KKh here and opponents which you exclude KKh in your CB

Andrew Sweeney 11 years, 10 months ago

Sometimes I check KK in this spot and sometimes i bet it. depending on weather or not I think my opponent can think I can check AA or AK here as well  Im not a fan of  just checking KK/QQ if my opponent thinks they are the only hands I am going to check here with. Im curious what ur planning on doing OTT if it checks threw? I find when I get checked to OTT, after flop checks threw in villains shoes they almost always have KK/QQ. This is why against some people ill check back the flop with my whole range and when checked to OTT ill put in a big barrel, usually between .8xP-2xP and make them bluff catch with there entire range.

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