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NL25z T8s

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NL25z T8s

Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players) BN: $23.16
SB: $25.00
BB: $25.00
UTG: $14.31
MP: $25.35 (Hero)
CO: $43.36
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is MP with T 8
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.62, 3 folds, BB calls $0.37
Flop ($1.34) 6 7 4
BB checks, Hero bets $1.00, BB raises to $2.75, Hero calls $1.75
Turn ($6.84) 6 7 4 K
BB bets $1.96, Hero calls $1.96
River ($10.76) 6 7 4 K 6
BB checks, Hero bets $7.71, BB calls $7.71
Final Pot BB wins and shows two pair, Sevens and Sixes.
MP lost and shows a pair of Sixes.
BB wins $25.00
Rake is $1.18

is the river a good place to bluff given how the turn played out?
OTF XR range looks like a set, two pairs, nutflush draw.
OTT set would bet bigger unless a set of 6 with a diamond in it, two pairs would bet bigger too, i think.
so that brings us to the river, all of the nutted hands would continue betting here for value, right?

villain had A7 of clubs

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Brokenstars 3 years, 8 months ago

I think how you played it is very standard and well played.

You can certainly mix pre and flop, but I think turn/river is good. Certainly feels like a middling sdv hand after turn sizing like 6Xdd/A7/88/99/55/65, but can't really think of a better combo to bluff river with and people would likely still fold hands like 55/maybe A7. Try not to include results next time though cause I do think it biases replies.

whiteshark 3 years, 8 months ago

OTF XR range looks like a set, two pairs, nutflush draw.

I just want to add that BB should XR this flop much more liberally than the range you are attributing to him. 764ss is a BB board and not an MP PFR board, so you are going to see all kinds of straightdraws (and BDFDs) being checkraised here. Overall checkraising frequency should lie somewhere around 15% here I suppose.

Vs. this sizing you obviously can't get away OTT. If he would have polarized and bet big, I think T8s turns into a fold, since you're blocking quite some of his 8x bluffs. Holding the 8c is also the worst 8 I guess, since his 8x bluffs should be mostly constructed around BDFD hands.

Gino Song 3 years, 8 months ago

really cant find any major faults here other than preflop opening is too loose for that opening size

villain shouldnt be check raising his top pair here so note that, it means a river bluff is less valuable

could exploit raise turn vs the small bet as well

whiteshark 3 years, 8 months ago

I think for 2.5BB T8s should be right at the threshold between openraising and folding, probably mixing/indifferent. Given that people defend too little in the Zoom format, I guess this is slightly +EV.

Brokenstars 3 years, 8 months ago

T8s is going to show as a mixed RFI in MP for most 6max raked environments. With regards to a7 raising, BB is likely supposed to actually have a lot of donk bets here and in the absence of that MP likely supposed to be checking behind very often... though T8 obviously has pretty good betting properties. That being said, if you assume MP is betting even a little bit too much then raising a7 is very good, and even if he isn't... well raising a7 is still fine.

HawksWin 3 years, 8 months ago

Seems pretty good. Flop can probably be debated some but not too big of a deal.

Make sure you go into PT4 or HM3 and get some notes on this guy for the future. There is a ton of information about this guy from this hand.

*x/r tptk bdfd on wet straight draw board
*bet turn overcard small on non draw closing turn
*trending sticky on rivers (can help you set up your value/bluff ratio in future)

also note the line he took

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