[NL25 Zoom Poker - 3-BET POT] AJs vs 2 opponents OOP with TPGK

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[NL25 Zoom Poker - 3-BET POT] AJs vs 2 opponents OOP with TPGK

BN: BenCousinsRT: $35.10
SB: tiagost: $36.93
BB: paaapers: $24.59
UTG: chaynoso: $61.26
HJ: rintikkk: $24.15
CO: virago133: $24.42
Preflop ($0.35) (6 Players)
tiagost was dealt J A
chaynoso folds, rintikkk folds, virago133 folds, BenCousinsRT raises to $0.50, tiagost raises to $2, paaapers calls $1.75, BenCousinsRT calls $1.50
Flop ($6.10) 5 9 A (3 Players)
tiagost bets $2.95, paaapers folds, BenCousinsRT calls $2.95
Turn ($12.00) 5 9 A 6 (2 Players)
tiagost bets $5.75, BenCousinsRT raises to $30.15, and is all in, tiagost folds
Final Pot
BenCousinsRT wins $22.35

Is the 3-BET size ok? Or it's just better to make $1.75 on these mini-raises?

Bet on the flop ok?

Should've check/called this turn instead of double barreling?

I think he might have AQ, maybe some pocket pairs also?

Thanks

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Hova 11 years, 4 months ago

After x/c'n flop whether you call all 3 or not will be very opponent dependant. You can call twice on safe turns pretty easily but facing a big river bet I think you will have to fold most of the time.

Chael Sonnen 11 years, 4 months ago

Against a BTN min-raise with 100BB stacks, I think a 4x 3-bet is best. 3.5x versus a 2.5x open, and 3x and a bit (how scientific!) against a 3x open.

In a min-raise/call pot, I'd definitely go larger here. You possibly want to set up a river shove, so size accordingly.

Betting the flop is good. You need some strong hands in your check-calling range to balance when you have hands like QQ, but it's better to have a spade out/blocker, and lowcard that blocks some of his straight draws. So AhJs would be a better hand to do it with.

Turn is obviously not a good one because a ton of his range picks up equity, but it's not as scary as it looks. Reads are pretty important here.
Does he peel light pre-flop? If no, then he can't have A6s, 65s, 66 or maybe even 87s (87s raises flop most of the time).

Since a big part of his range has good equity against you, and a decent part beats you, there is little value in betting. A check-call is not bad here.

As played, it's probably a close fold. A little too tired to do an Oracle simulation right now, sorry.
His range probably looks like A6s, 99, 87s, spades, clubs, FD + pair, FD + SD, spazz plays with A8/A7/A9-AQ.

So if you think your opponent peel a wide range pre-flop and on the flop, and plays draws aggressively, this is a call. If your opponent only plays strong hands like this, it's as an easy fold.

It's very important to know this, because you need to know how heavily to factor his (combo)draws, since you're dead against his made hands.




Exorciser 11 years, 4 months ago

That was a hell of an explanation, thanks!

That's what I usually do, regarding the 3-BET size. Works great!

About the hand itself, I had no reads on him, barely had any stats, so in this case opted for the safer way. But I also like your line of betting flop and check/calling the turn and think on the river later. I think he probably had 2 pair here, really A6s is the most probable hand I think.

Thanks a lot for the explanation, opened my mind regarding the hand.

Cheers!

sofaking 11 years, 4 months ago

what do you guys think of just flatting hands like aj oop because many of villains ip r/c hands are dominating our aj for example

Chael Sonnen 11 years, 4 months ago

Glad you liked it, Ex.

There are not too many dominating hands that flat pre-flop. AK almost always 4-bets, and AQ might too, in an aggressive dynamic. So you have nearly the nutt Ace here./

He'll be calling with most suited Aces, and worse Jacks.

AJs is definitely ahead in equity versus let's a say a 50% BTN steal, but without initiative, you won't be able to realise your equity enough.

And by not 3-betting these type of hands, your 3-betting range becomes a little bit too polarized.

Not al all saying it is wrong, but I think that in most spots, 3-betting will gain you more EV than flatting.

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