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NL25 ZOOM bluff x/r

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NL25 ZOOM bluff x/r

BN: $28.52
SB: $34.64
BB: $31.03 (Hero)
UTG: $27.44
HJ: $30.46
CO: $21.49
Opp vilian, we dont have any history or dymanic
Preflop ($0.35) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt Q J
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO folds, BN raises to $0.50, SB folds, Hero calls $0.25
Flop ($1.10) 9 A K (2 Players)
Hero checks, BN bets $0.75, Hero raises to $2.10, BN calls $1.35
Turn ($5.30) 9 A K 9 (2 Players)
Hero bets $3.10, BN calls $3.10
River ($11.50) 9 A K 9 6 (2 Players)
Hero bets $6.40, BN calls $6.40
Final Pot
Hero has Q J BN has A 5 BN wins $23.21
Just interesting, my bluff in vacum the place to be? And call with TP by villian its good play in this spot or? ...
Also what hands on this board better x/r in bluff. (i mean what blockers be better here)

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GameTheory 11 years, 11 months ago
Flop is ok, turn you bet on the small side, the 9 is not that good to bluff.

Stations don't fold Ax on AK99. If you want to bluff the river you must bet bigger.
Awesome Dawg 11 years, 11 months ago
I can understand your statement "Flop is ok" only in the context of combinatory, but I think it`s totally fail to ch\r here because:
1. We can rep here only 4 good flushdraws (JT,QJ,89,T9) and A9 proly. Not much.
2. We can easily rep very wide Ax,Kx diapason check\calling here ( floating him) and still have fairy outs here for Ten, which give us good hidden nuts. More of it - any diamond turn can give us reasons for hiddens ch\r, which have much more FE.

Thx.
GameTheory 11 years, 11 months ago
These arguments come if to play in your opponent starts to play back at you optimally, I don't give 25NL zoom players credit for that. If he is just folding every time he has air or a hand weaker than top pair he make a profit. We risk $2.10 to win $1.85, and we still have equity. Calling OOP with gutshot and unders isn't that profitable, that is why the x/r is ok.

If we start check calling the flop, our range still looks very capped, we can be facing a lot of barrels and clearly this hand has to fold at least 70% of turns.


Nemquin 11 years, 11 months ago
If you don't have any history or dynamic I fail to see the point of your bluff. My observations at zoom are that people really hate folding and call down often with weak holdings. So why you go on a 3-street bluff is beyond my understanding. There are going to be loads of much better spots than this.
james 11 years, 11 months ago
3 barreling this spot vs an unknown at 25nl is probably going to be a disaster because of the 9 pairing and them thinking they chop with any Ax hand. For that reason I wouldn't bet the turn especially without a spade in our hand. Also, as Awesome Dawg said, it's a little dicey to check raise this board given the preflop action and the fact that the PFR is uncapped and we can have very few strong value hands.
WM2K 11 years, 11 months ago
Fwiw c/c this flop is reasonable imo. Villain is going to c bet this board a ridic % of the time then shut down a decent amount and we can steal OTR with a OOP float. This combined with our gutter and bdfd should show a profit unless villain is barreling like a madman in which case the profits go to our TP hands. This is a far more credible line then the c/r where we have what like 3 combos maybe (99 is a reasonable 3 bet) of Top2 + on this board.
Chael Sonnen 11 years, 11 months ago
Could raise pre, but calling is absolutely fine.

Not a fan of the flop raise. What do raise for value here? A9, K9, P/FD, 99 and QJ/JTs or something?
There aren't a ton of hands you can rep for value and at the lower stakes, players have a hard time folding pairs and you're nearly drawing dead if he has a K or A.

Turn - Good card to barrel on becaus you can credibly rep spades and they are more likely to be in your range than in his, but he's likely not folding an ace here.

We have to check the river. The 6 doesn't change anything. If he calls the flop and turn with a pair, he's most likely not folding the river.

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