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NL25 - Squeezed QQ and get cold called by a passive fish

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NL25 - Squeezed QQ and get cold called by a passive fish

Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players) BB: $34.41
UTG: $34.42
MP: $12.11
CO: $31.58
BN: $39.08
SB: $26.33 (Hero)
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is SB with Q Q
2 folds, CO raises to $0.70, BN calls $0.70, Hero raises to $3.50, BB calls $3.25, CO folds, BN folds
Flop ($8.40) 3 4 7
Hero bets $22.83 and is all in

BB is a passive fish, not many hands on him but over 24 hands he has this stats:
VPIP 83 PFR 17 open and fold vs 3bet N/A
fold vs steals 0/3
fold vs cbet 1/5
Cold call 3bet 1/1

I have the best hand on the flop often, since his range is so wide, but at the same time I fear any turn. I think this is a 2 street hand but I might be wrong. If you bet, what's your sizings

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akissv7 5 years, 4 months ago

Against a passive fish that will make the call with any heart and perhaps even with top pair or over pair would try to get it in in two streets if the turn is no heart.

Flop something like 6-7 such that turn can be shoved with much less then a pot sized bet.

akissv7 5 years, 4 months ago

As you have only 24 hands you don't know what kind of fish the villain is post flop (aggressive or passive). If the villain jams it is a tough call between folding and calling.

Most aggressive fish will either have a flush draw (~35% equity) or a flush (~100% equity) so against an aggressive fish it is close, aggressive fish can also jam with worse so against an aggressive fish it would be a call.
Most passive fish will just call with a flush draw and only move all in with a flush so against a passive fish it would be a fold.
All in all I think that against a jam folding is better.

Brokenstars 5 years, 4 months ago

You're a lot better off just betting for a smaller sizing under the assumption it's a fish. This is a texture you really should just be checking quite a lot oop on, so just overbet jamming like this seems pretty unnecessary. If you think he is wide/passive then I'd probably just bet/fold like 67% and jam most safe turns. If a bad turn comes not a huge deal since if he is a passive fish it's unlikely he really bluffs into you and you aren't really in a tough spot.

forCarlotta 5 years, 4 months ago

I tried to hide my actions without any luck... but yeah I shoved misreading my opponents stack, but I'd would shove for 1,5x effective.

I feel lost though, you said to bet smaller and then you advocate to bet 67% pot. Can you plz elaborate a bit further? I if would bet I would go with akissv7 advice instead of my overshove.

Also, I don't see how you can bet/fold here? I mean, sure he can have a flopped flush or a set, but odds are against it, simple because you don't flop them much often. Very often we are against a marginal hand or a hand that have much equity against our hand but we aren't dead

Brokenstars 5 years, 4 months ago

I said smaller and then said 2/3 because if it is a fish you'd want to gii on turn (for same reason u shoved flop) as fish may call 55/66/76/AhX etc. but they typically don't jam into you unless they have it since you said he's likely passive. With a 2/3 psb on flop thats about $5-6 and then turn will be just under 1spr.

Normally vs. a reg I'd either bet 25%psb or check ~everything.

robbo 5 years, 4 months ago

Hmm, pretty cool line tbh, against such player type! Your hand is very often good now, but there are like no good turncards. If you dont plan to betfold this seems reasonable, betting big and calling of seems ok too, and then jamming safe turns.
In spots like this i think its best to just play your hand in a vaccum, forget about balance and ”optimal lines”(that are used vs very good players)
Another very good like can be to check jam flop, let him stab whatever 1 pair hand and then they feel More commited and might call off lighter than this overbet.

forCarlotta 5 years, 4 months ago

I use the check/jam line often vs a different kind of player though. Vs this one, who showed passive tendecies preflop even on a very low number of hands, I have no reason to infer that he would stab

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