NL25 Rush: Two pair facing a pot donkbet OTR
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NL25 Rush: Two pair facing a pot donkbet OTR
SB: $26.13
BB: $22.36
UTG: $25.10
HJ: $27.04 (Hero)
CO: $33.11
BN: $19.47
BB: $22.36
UTG: $25.10
HJ: $27.04 (Hero)
CO: $33.11
BN: $19.47
First hand with the villain.
Preflop
($0.35)
(6 Players)
Hero was dealt
K
J
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.75, CO folds, BN folds, SB folds, BB calls $0.50
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.75, CO folds, BN folds, SB folds, BB calls $0.50
Flop
($1.60)
K
2
J
(2 Players)
BB checks,
Hero bets $1,
BB calls $1
Turn
($3.60)
K
2
J
8
(2 Players)
BB checks,
Hero bets $3,
BB calls $3
River
($9.60)
K
2
J
8
Q
(2 Players)
BB bets $9.60
Some straights and KQ got there, but also he can have a busted FD or even a worse two pair. Is a call standard in this spot?
Thank you!
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Tough spot.
Bet 1.25 on the flop.
Good turn sizing.
Against a reg, I'd feel pretty good about folding, although that reg would have played a lot of the hands you lose to very differently.
Villian is a new guy and he doesn't have a full stack, which indicates he's probably not a winning regular.
I doubt he bets a smaller two pair like this. He'd probably just bet 6-7 dollars.
The more I think about it, the more I lean towards folding to the potential spazz also. AT/KQ/T9 are very likely hand, especially with (backdoor) flush draws.
One thing weaker players tend to do is bet big with strong hands that aren't the nuts, so they can fold more easily when they still get raised. I'm not sure how many hands you beat vs the hands that beat you would do that here.
I think he has more hands that beat me than hands that I beat, even with the pot odds, I think this is a fold. But I ended up calling :p
the question is, whats our perceived hand range up to river? We basically have all TKs+,JJ+,ATs,9Ts,AQs,TQs,FDs in our Barreling hand range. given our flop/turn bet sizings, we are repping a more value-based hand range up till river. Does villain really expect us to fold on river with our TP+ hand range, when both FD's missed on river? Can Villain value bet anything worse? I may be leveling myself, by i would be inclined to fold river, based on villains C/C:C/C:Bet line, since at lower stakes, its harder to villain to construct a river bluff leading range effectively.
I would probably timebank fold this, and hate life. :P
As villain is not full stack, I thought he was bad enough to not even think about my range, he could just think "my draw missed, I will bluff" or "hmm QJ looks good now, I will bet!" :D
But you are right, if he is any good, he would be probably betting here for value.
Thank you for the answers guys!
what did he have? i want to know. :P
Tc9c
Then congratulations , you have a good villain. He made a very bad call on the turn. Take a note, and keep playing with him, and you will win a lot from him. He might decide to float the flop intended to bet turn when checked to, or bluff raise the turn. But I don't think his turn call is good by any means.
His flop call is way worse than his turn call. He is dead to a Q if Villians has a K or J.
And the Qs is dangerous, and he won't get the nutt straight if he hits.
Call looks good. Some combos of T9 fold flop, some combos of AT fold turn and he can still have worse for value or a missed FD.
Also his stack size and him taking a silly line on his first hand, make me call pretty quick.
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