What about if the flop looks like KdJd8x? Sometimes i like to raise ny gutshots vs donkbets at 3b pots vs recs because they sometimes lead with random stuff like 8x, jx, Gshots and some other stuff thar folds vs raise but i just a diferent board.

What would you do with AA in the same exact spot of KJJ5? Raise flop? Calldown? Call flop and fold turn if i dont have a diamond?

Ty

AA calldown, might fold(river) vs passive villain and without holding Ace of diamond.
We can justify raising too, but it won't be default play and can be higher ev (than calling) vs certain type of opponents

What would you do with AA in the same exact spot of KJJ5? Raise flop? Calldown? Call flop and fold turn if i dont have a diamond?

Call flop, probably call turn and then vomit on the river if facing a third barrel.

I don't really see how we have reverse implied odds on a diamond?? do you honestly think that OOP donks KJJdd with KJ?? I would say close to 0% of the time he would do that, weaker players tend to under-bet flops in which they have a lock on the hand- for example Axx in 3 bet pots when they have AA they tend to x back because they block everything. so I think it is against a recs intuition to donk top boats blocking absolutely everything.

on, for example, a Td/9d/Qd river then yeah I guess sometimes he has random boats, but then we can just exploitably fold if he jams in to us on a 4 flush when we have the Ad as he should be worried about the flush, unless he has a boat of course.

but yeah the 5 turn should give him no additional boats, J5s/J5o shouldn't be in his pre-flop range. 55 occasionally will be in a fishes donking range but at an extremely low frequency.

and if we 'aren't getting paid' on a diamond river then that means we can just jam our entire range

and if we 'aren't getting paid' on a diamond river then that means we can just jam our entire range

I could definitely be wrong about folding turn given that most people in this thread have disagreed with me. That being said, the statement above doesn't really help us in this hand. We're trying to figure out how to play this specific hand versus this opponent rather than how to build exploits versus his strategy as a whole.

it didn't finish off the sentence that I typed but you seemed to understand what I meant anyways. yeah that is true, as you said it is about our AT hand, but I just mean that people seem to think that it is a problem when villain doesn't call us when x run out happens, and we look upon this as a bad thing for certain parts of our range that wish to get value when that run out happens.

however, I just wanted to point out that it can be insanely good and profitable if villain puts us on the nut flush/ boat in a specific spot, and that we can turn hands that would normally want to show down, hands such as AKss, in to bluffs as villain is x folding low flushes as well as trips.

with this hand, regardless I believe that we have the odds to call ott, not even taking in to account implied odds, or future bluffing opportunities or whatever. simply because villain almost certainly doesn't have a boat, and can sometimes have a hand such as KQ for 'value.' or a random bluff. even vs JTss type hand I'm pretty sure we have the odds to call. vs a flush we don't but we are playing vs a range so he should have a bunch of weaker hands than only flushes.

Allin @ Turn seems really good

Also, if you think he is tight enough that you cannot call the turn with AsTx then this is a fold pre-flop as an exploit.

How do you think his range looks like OTT?

It's more of a 3bet or fold hand because it performs better in HU pots than MW pots and has decent blockers to 4bet range. ATo loses EV when SB or BB overcalls because it is dominated more often than it dominates and flops medium strength hands more often than nutted hands.

cheers my friend, how are you??? ty!

Crushing as usual :) Playing a mix of ring and HU cash games and looking to start playing midstakes on softer sites in June.

nice bro good for you!! Flirting with poker again