nl200 overpair in 3b pot on Aturn

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nl200 overpair in 3b pot on Aturn

Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (6 Players) BN: $545.83
SB: $200.48 (Hero)
BB: $256.77
UTG: $810.88
MP: $200.00
CO: $207.60
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is SB with Q Q
3 folds, BN raises to $6.00, Hero raises to $22.00, BB folds, BN calls $16.00
Flop ($46.00) 9 T 4
Hero bets $33.80, BN calls $33.80
Turn ($113.60) 9 T 4 A
Hero checks, BN bets $42.00

villian is rec ( 20/15 over 15hands). Spr ott is quite ugly ( I have like 150$) and actually don't know what to do:
1)bet 1/3 and fold (don't like because I can make villian spazz or shove worse)
2)bet 1/3 and call (like a bit more, but without reads seems marginal)
3)check/call (blocking Qd isn't great thing, even though we block AdQd. And after check/calling turn, river will be same difficult and still '' flying blind'')

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burek2000 6 years, 10 months ago

I would bet about $25 on the flop. It's enough to stack villain by the river on good board run out and it gives you more manoeuvrability if board goes bad.

Alternatively, you could just potsize flop and make it a 2 street hand. In that case, you probably want to shove turn yourself on pretty much any turn card.

My line would be to c/c turn and c/f river.

Ryan 6 years, 10 months ago

yeah i would just C/C turn and C/F river unless he made it absurdly small. Rec players can def bet small like this with Tx and bluffs and then check the river. facing a river bet would fold without a solid reason to believe villain is going cray

tate574 6 years, 10 months ago

I wouldn't mind a check on the flop cuz it doesn't hit our range well and draws are doing decent vs any over pairs really. I think you will find it easier to play to. say you c/c flop now that turn hits you a lot more often and villain will play pretty honestly. but as played blocking a lot of hands you want him to have like QJ Qxdd call turn and reevaluate river.

Mancuso 6 years, 10 months ago

If the villain is rec, shouldn't we forget about some gto and play more exploitative?
I mean, betting big on the flop in order to shove the turn.
He will gii with mostly draws or weak pairs.

Jeff_ 6 years, 10 months ago

not huge fan of big sizing here vs unknown. It is looks more scary in his eyes(let's say for default, some guys don't care about it). If they react same to 3/4 or pot size, higher EV is pot size, easy to be calling wrong hands on the flop(against pot) a lot which gives us decent amount of money.
But I think vs 3/4 villian have more room for mistake and won't be scared, maybe trying to bluff me by raising or calling low PP with intention to check down. And we can have close to pot shove ott, so nothing wrong with it.

Ryan 6 years, 10 months ago

actually want to reposition my stance.. I would say C/C turn and evaluate river. you do block AQ, he prob 4-bets AK, so on the river you may actually just have the right price to call it off on blanks

MattDaBeast 6 years, 10 months ago

I'd C/C turn, C/F river. If you're confident villain is a rec, then he can bet the turn worse for value to see cheap showdown. Calling a river jam seems pretty bad because, unless you have a read, the general player pool isn't going to bluff often enough and he checks back his Tx / JJ now. Don't worry about blockers when they don't have enough bluffs in the first place.

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