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nl200 3 way with 0 bluffs in both ranges

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nl200 3 way with 0 bluffs in both ranges

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bit lazy to make screenshot and post it here so will go like this (no virus of course; site is quite popular at highstakes threads)

utg rec (can be pretty splashy)
co reg (aggro pre but looks tight postflop)

pre: I like flatting more than sqz; feels like our sqz doing pretty bad vs rec (not much better folds and can be dominated by AJ/KJ/AT and if he calls reg will come along)
flop: feels like I shouldn't be x/R ever here. My value 88/33 but I dont want to blow rec from the hand with sets.
river: Hard to imagine me bluffing here, I just can't have bluffs. My range Kx and flushes. His range is pretty strong on the other hand I dont think I can fold all flushes since no clue what he is doing so defending mdf

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Shaun Pauwels 4 years, 7 months ago

I like flatting more than sqz

Makes sense. JTs isn't that super as a squeeze hand. Calling with BB still behind to act also isn't that appealing. But if it's a mistake it won't be a big one.

flop: feels like I shouldn't be x/R ever here. My value 88/33 but I dont want to blow rec from the hand with sets.

That's not the main reason tbh. UTG (HJ) should check range to CO because it's multiway. Because of that UTG still has his entire range when action comes to you. So you'd be raising into two possibly strong ranges.

Hard to imagine me bluffing here, I just can't have bluffs

Depends on what you call preflop with.

His range is pretty strong

Is it? He checked turn. If he shows up with a better hand you can still be glad. Because this hand would've cost you more if he bet turn and then bet river.

screamdustry 4 years, 7 months ago

The only combo that actually makes sense to check turn and raise river is KK. It kinda makes good sense for him to play like that, but its obviously super narrow to range on one combo.

I dont know. I thought to myself - I would propably like to overfold here, but not to a degree of crazy.

But then, are Kx better here to bluffcatch with than flushes, given that it reduces that one combo that makes most sense for him to have? If he's not having for sure KK, does that mean that his range is now more volatile? I dont know either.

I guess that its just one of these spots where I would give up futile process of assumption-making, given how little idea we have, and just be satisfied with anything that does look like EV+ calldown in theory.

Jeff_ 4 years, 7 months ago

Haha calling KK pre, seems like freeroll for table to be honest but at some dynamic is reasonable.
Here 888 - reg table, so dynamic recs very call happy(calling big 3bets with garbage, bluffing vs checks, and .....) pretty splashy as well. Thats the reason why I don't like raise sets on the flop to keep ''fish in''

screamdustry 4 years, 7 months ago

No no, I misread the preflop action. And I totally blame that horrendous replayer, not my cognitive skills or anything ;)

Then I guess the 2nd most likely hand for value is like nut flush that he decided to 'slowplay' IP. So flushes are gonna be no question bluffcatchers over Kx.

Ryan 4 years, 7 months ago

I find it hard to believe villain shows up here with many bluffs at all after a cold call in the CO. Like what is he betting on flop to raise on river? 99 w a spade?

I think the most likely candidate for him is some Axss, some sets that were going for a river raise. I guess it's possible maybe some AJo with a spade could exist, but it seems unlikely. It seems to me that the most likely thing happening here is he is checking back some strong hands with intention of raising river. There are some regs that def will not take this line for value tho, and may overbluff. My gut says fold, but I also play in much more passive games than you do Im guessing

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