[NL1k] 3 barrel range on 2 blanks runnout vs weak reg

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[NL1k] 3 barrel range on 2 blanks runnout vs weak reg

Blinds: $5.00/$10.00 (4 Players) BB: $3385.34
CO: $189.86
BN: $1081.00
SB: $3329.66 (Hero)
Preflop ($15.00) Hero is SB with J K
CO folds, BN raises to $20.00, Hero raises to $70.00, BB folds, BN calls $50.00
Flop ($150.00) 4 Q T
Hero bets $117.60, BN calls $117.60
Turn ($385.20) 4 Q T 6
Hero bets $305.76, BN calls $305.76
River ($996.72) 4 Q T 6 5
Hero checks, BN checks
Final Pot BN wins and shows a pair of Tens.
SB lost and shows high card King.
BN wins $993.72
Rake is $3.00

Hi guys,
I'm posting this hand cause i'd like to know what should be my 3barreling range here. Obviously I should have bet OTR here, I really hate my check.
So this hand raised a couple of questions :

What is my weakest hand for value ? I would say AQ or at least KQ.
So then my bluffs should be something like KJ and some AK. I feel like AK is better than J9 as we block some combos of AQ and KQ.

This is against a weak reg who is folding the river a bit too much.
Steal 63% and fold 60% to 3bets.

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Koala 10 years, 3 months ago

I'd start with what hands we can 3 barrel for value. Let's say AA KK QQ TT 44 AQ.
Then we can figure out how many combos this range has: 6+6+3+3+3+12=33.
So if we 3 barrel less than 33 combos on this board run-out, we are not over-bluffing. For example, you can go with AKhh, AJhh, all KJ, these are 18 combos. If you also put J9s in your bb 3betting range I guess you can add this to your 3 barrel range as well, which gets us 18+4=22.
If we do add AKo and AJo into this range, we get 22+15+15=52 combos, then we may be overbluffing OTR.

Disharmonist 10 years, 3 months ago

I´d triple barrel here very often. You say he folds too much otr so you can exploit that by bluffing more. Hard to put you on a draw as well.

lilxam 10 years, 3 months ago

Yeah against a good reg i should be balanced but i guess against his particular guy i should 3barrel all the hands that i bet turn with then right ?

Thanks for your answers !

lilxam 10 years, 3 months ago

Yeah against a good reg i should be balanced but i guess against his particular guy i should 3barrel all the hands that i bet turn with then right ?

Thanks for your answers !

Disharmonist 10 years, 3 months ago

Prob yes, but you should find a good reason to two barrel. Either you have enough equity when called, the turn is a scarcard for his range etc. OTR he only needs to fold about 40% of the time when you bluff or even less (stacksize dependant) to make it +ev.

sweet16 10 years, 3 months ago

I would always 3 barell this combo since we don't block backdoor fds. This got to be like the best bluff combo we can have given what I said in last sentence and that you block KQ/QJ. How you structure your range OTR probably depends to some extent what you do with AJ/AK OTF. But we have a really nice hand to bluff so I would always bluff, if river isn't a bluff it's damn close for sure. However I still think it's a bluff. Set up stack sizes better btw

Jusc 10 years, 3 months ago

I think when he calls pot on turn, henever folds rvr, so you saved yourself some €€.
Dont like the sizings all streets , would go 80-90 preflop, and around 100-120 otf. Turn ipdepends on his pre-flop tendencies. Since you have a lot of AJ, AK, J9, 89s, turn FDs , i dont like the pot bet on turn, hes never folding a Q, and against other hands you have decent equity. Against active floater, would ch/r turn
Otr we are overbluffing esp with these stacks

lilxam 10 years, 3 months ago

Yeah I have to admit that I don't really know how to set up my sizings. I'm always wondering if I should think GTO and so bet big when my range is strong and small when I have a lot of bluffs (Axx board for example). Or if I should consider more his range and his tendencies. But then here for example, I said the guy calls a lot flop and turn and fold a lot on the river. Would you bet big turn to make more money when he folds on the river or would you bet small cause he'll not fold many hands on this turn ?
I'm a bit confused.

Jusc 10 years, 3 months ago

You should think GTO when you dont have additional info or you play vs very well balnced opp, and play exploitative otherwise. Theres no sense play GTO if your opponent makes obvious mistakes AND YOU KNOW IT. So lets say against this guy bluff less with no equity and pick good spots to bluff rvrs
Here it might be ok to bluff all 3 if you have really good reads about his rvr play, but it should be big sample, good history, etc.
As i said in this spot, i would expect close to 0 FE otr after you pot turn in 3bet pot

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