NL10Z - good spot to bluff readless?

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NL10Z - good spot to bluff readless?

Blinds: $0.05/$0.10 (6 Players) BN: $13.80
SB: $37.69
BB: $15.54
UTG: $13.63 (Hero)
MP: $19.12
CO: $10.00
Preflop ($0.15) Hero is UTG with J K
Hero raises to $0.27, MP folds, CO raises to $0.93, BN folds, SB calls $0.88, BB folds, Hero calls $0.66
Both are readless basically. I have just a few hands on CO and no hands on SB. Preflop seems relatively standard to me.
Flop ($2.89) 7 8 4
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks
The CO doesn't cbet, but I think here both x/r and x/c are somewhat ok?
Turn ($2.89) 7 8 4 4
SB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, CO calls $1.50
River ($7.39) 7 8 4 4 6
SB checks, Hero bets $11.20 and is all in, CO calls $7.57 and is all in, SB folds
Given the action, I feel it's a decent bluffing spot, but I'm not fully sold on it. SB check feels weakish, and CO didn't represent much either so far. Is it fine to ship this river, given the action?

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Jeff_ 4 years, 11 months ago

If they are both regulars seems like getting away pre is solid approach. Because you would only want to play hands which are +EV to call. Wheel Aces, low SC and mid PP are fairly good candidates. Whether is this hand call or not preflop I have no information. Imaging playing vs range JJ+ AQs+ in both ranges and you got 18% equity which you aren't realizing 100%. Keep that in mind

CO should likely check all his range vs 2 players on that texture, so we might donk as well flop.And as played I would give up river here, having 2 heats is pretty bad and CO behind still holds strong range. Likely undebluffing there in general, but thats what it is ( Expect bluff to be negative and check winning 0bb)

Gohan14 4 years, 11 months ago

Hey,
Can you expand a bit on why should the CO check his whole range? I get completely misses the board (overcards and overpairs). How would we play overpairs in COs shoes? And AK, AQ?

I assume we are range checking to protect against stabs every time we don't cbet. So we would play x/c with pretty much everything that is made or could improve (FD + Backdoors)?

Jeff_ 4 years, 11 months ago

boards hits pretty well both players calling ranges. In theory in multiway not much betting going on anyway(only in high favorite boards), so we can simply by checking range. However vs weaker players that wont hold true.

We are checking just because there is not much value in betting 3 streets, and plenty of turn cards make our overpairs lose value a ton and not able to valuebet. We can pile big bet on the flop, but it is multiway spot so they can defend pretty easily against it. Therefore we have no point in bluffing anything

Gino Song 4 years, 11 months ago

100 percent fold pre

bluffing river is good if you get into this spot though, but its got to be huge, pot and above which you did

bluebull15 4 years, 11 months ago

I'll just comment on the fact that I think KJ suited for a reasonably sized 3 bet closing the action multi way is just fine to call. As long as you don't get spewy!

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