NL10z - bluffing vs weak (IMO) range

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NL10z - bluffing vs weak (IMO) range

Blinds: $0.05/$0.10 (6 Players) BN: $10.00
SB: $12.07 (Hero)
BB: $9.45
UTG: $24.29
MP: $10.00
CO: $28.12
Preflop ($0.15) Hero is SB with 4 A
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BB calls $0.20
Flop ($0.60) 7 6 4
Hero bets $0.32, BB calls $0.32
Im thinking and to be honest im not sure if i should cbet this flop or play check-call.Cbet makes it easier to play on later streets, check-call seems to be more difficult option.
Turn ($1.24) 7 6 4 Q
Hero checks, BB bets $0.59, Hero raises to $1.94, BB calls $1.35
Here i was trying to be fancy and tricky (it finished as usual :-) ), Q seems to be much better in my range than his, and in his range are mostly weak pairs, 7x 6x, 4x, or draws 5x, maybe 89, T9. Thought that i can win it now by check-raising and when he decides to call me, he will definetly fold to river bet.
River ($5.12) 7 6 4 Q K
Hero bets $9.51 and is all in, BB calls $6.89 and is all in
K seems to be the best card for me, ill have a lot of AK, KQ in my range. If he floated me on flop with some Qx, and hit his Q on turn, now its gonna be not easy for him to call my shove on river. I did as I decided, shoved and he called me kinda insta.
Final Pot SB lost and shows a pair of Fours.
BB wins and shows a pair of Sixes.
BB wins $18.05
Rake is $0.85

He showed me A6o and now Im thinking how should i tag him. As a passive recreational who calls dawn with 4th pair or use red color cause he seems to be good in hand reading and its better not to make moves on him. How do you think?

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elbabbelino 6 years, 2 months ago

OTF:
Can you explain me why a CB makes your hand easier to play on later streets than a XC?
(In both cases you don’t beat his valuerange. He has more blufs OTT vs a XC line than when you CB. Therefore your EV should be higher (and playability better) OTT when you XC rather than CB)

OTT:
- What factors are important when estimating effectiveness of a XR OTT?
1. Strength of range villain OTT pre-betting (How is villain his range constructed? Frequency of TP+, Frequency of weak hands like floats)
2. Bet vs Missed CB (and agg%) OTT, the likelihood of him betting when checked to.
3. Stickyness vs XR (fold v XR, WTSD%, Does Hero perceivably represent value When XR OTT)
In general the more likely villain is to fastplay strong hands OTF, the lower the frequency of TP+ (And esp. 2P+) OTT. The less strong hands, the more effective your XR will be OTT and OTR.
The more likely villain is to BvMCB OTT, the lower the frequency of strong hands in his turn betting range, so the higher the FE tends to be.
The less inclined villain is to defend vs a XR without a strong hand naturally, and the more Hero represents value in the eyes of villain, the higher the FE OTT.

Were you to have TPTK+, XR is a strong option OTT when villain is likely to BvMCB with high frequency. and even more so when he is sticky vs a XR. The majority of villain his range will only call were you to CB OTT and now you can get an extra street of value in.
(Seeing the hand of villain he appears to be a perfect example of a player against who this works out great).

OTR:
- I agree the king is a better card for your range than for villain.
- Your big sizing is polarising, which is not neccessarily bad (It is conditional upon how wide your value XR range looks OTT and how wide villain will call OTT and OTR), but it seems to make your valuerange quite narrow. In my experience, people don’t often show QJo down in Hero his shoes.
- That said, I don’t think your river bluf in practice is bad versus population, it should be a profitable bluf and the best play, irrespective of sizing. Only with specific reads on the villain it could become a bad or even horrible play in my opinion.

kirgiz 6 years, 2 months ago

You re way too assumptive. Its not at all unlikely that we re burning our money with this bluff. We basically need an oppo that would be sticky ott, but magically stop beong sticky otr when blank comes and all the draws brick.

The best play would be x fold, we have way better hands to bluff here.

HawksWin 6 years, 2 months ago

Check flop or bet like 1/4 pot (checking much preferred). BvB He has all sets, 2 pair, straights, some overpair combos, some top pair combos, OESD's, gutters (which you completely unblock). Sucks getting raised here and folding when you can outdraw a bunch of the aforementioned hands with 3rd pair/TK on the cheap.

Jeff_ 6 years, 2 months ago

looks like river the best street you played in that hand. Quite bad flop for you, so we shoudn't be cbetting a lot (vs presumable decent opponent) and A4 is borderline cbet.
On the turn you've started marginal assumptive play - There are no much better cards for your range vs villain after flop on this runout. But I will agree Q is slightly better for you. However x/R not type of play we wanna be making, maybe x/c with it and x/raise with some FD or 5x to block straights.

brookyct1995 6 years, 2 months ago

For me, I just bet small on flop, barrel on turn and river since over card is better for our range. There is a ton of better hand we can for them to fold such as pocket pair or small pair on flop. I'm sure that A6o would not call when you barrel 3 street. And just fold when we get raised

belrio42 6 years, 2 months ago

The flop is very good for BB's range. You have to respect that fact. He also has the nut advantage.

I would take one of two lines here.

  1. Check-call flop, check-fold turn.
  2. Bet flop small for protection, barrel on turn because card is good for your range, check-fold river. River probably checks through here, and you lose a small pot.

As for how to tag the player, calling station obviously. The guy calls down with third pair. Take him to value town.

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