nl100z sizing quiestion
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nl100z sizing quiestion
Blinds: $0.50/$1.00 (6 Players)
BN: $310.38
SB: $179.68
BB: $225.18
UTG: $100.00 (Hero)
MP: $138.95
CO: $102.28
SB: $179.68
BB: $225.18
UTG: $100.00 (Hero)
MP: $138.95
CO: $102.28
Preflop
($1.50)
Hero is UTG with
A
K
, , ,
bb tight regular, mp loose passive fish (small sample)
Flop
($9.50)
9
Q
3
, , ,
Turn
($21.50)
9
Q
3
K
, ,
River
($41.50)
9
Q
3
K
4
Turn can be a bet, but I think villian can have JTo in this spot and my hand don't need so much protection.
River I have question regarding size, think pretty clear we need to donk because villian is passive. size?
I did some work, figured out shoving might be max EV line, but all line were close (1/3, 2/3, pot. all in). Would like to hear what other people think?
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Well You are only value betting A or K high flush, so makes sense to go big so maybe around pot-110%ish? and you will need to turn QJ QT KJ KT into bluffs to be balanced
As you said considering vilain's profile everything's pretty close
I guess against a reg I'd tend to bet 1/3 as it's hard to get called by a non flush hand like a straight or two pair if we bet bigger. Of course we're obviously strong taking the lead here but we don't want to let vilain check back his hand.
As vilain took the lead on the turn here I'm almost considering x/r this river
The pot is big and maybe vilain could go crazy to make a desperate move.
I like your turn check for the reasons you mentioned.
Would you expect villain to VPIP JTo here?
If not, he's going to be left with a lot of non-flushes: JTs, KQ w/o Kd, sets. His most likely flush by far would be KdQo or KdJo/KoJd (if he VPIPs) followed by his slowplayed flop flushes.
I'd be tempted to block bet here 1/4 pot or so to get called by sets/2pr/JT and get him to raise his Kd hands. You said loose-passive, so he may not raise the 2nd nuts here. If that's the case, it would make this play a lot worse, and I'd lean towards open shoving or checking - both being focused on getting max value from Kd or Jd hands. Some players would actually be more likely to call an open shove than to call the x/r shove with Kd.
There are a few good options here, but given that his range shouldn't have a lot of weak flushes (compared to the other hands), 1/2-3/4 pot doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
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I prefer to exploit the passiveness most of the times with open shoving, and put him on a decisive spot otr if he has the nuts ott.
That switch in the board texture on the river leads me to take the simplest approach when Im confident of villian range and possible mistakes, unless I have a note that suggest me to lure him on that spot.
I know it's not the topic but I 'm wondering about the cbet on the flop. I'm not sure this is a clear cbet in multiway pot ? can someone help ?
I could find a check HU, definitely a bet against two players especially a fish.
You can get value from hands like Qs, JT or even worse + you don't want to see a diamond on the turn that slow downs the action.
Easier to take value on the flop than later.
It's almost definitely fine given that one player is a loose recreational player and the other is an overcaller from the BB. Both players will have wide ranges and with a hand like ours we can put lots of pressure on them by semi bluffing.
So you're betting Ahigh on the flop for value into 2 players ? Seems optimistic to me
It's not a "value bet" in the sense that we want the flop bet to get called. The point is that we very likely have the best hand right now, so by betting we can either 1) Claim the pot and deny equity to 2 players, 2) Get called by a worse hand, such as JT or KdJo (the "value" aspect), or 3) Get called by a better, but not great hand, and we can put a lot of pressure on those hands on later streets because we have the Ad. We can also just improve to win quite a bit.
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