nl100z call/fold?

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nl100z call/fold?

Blinds: $0.50/$1.00 (6 Players) BN: $109.70 (Hero)
SB: $169.38
BB: $198.95
UTG: $125.69
MP: $65.34
CO: $109.82
Preflop ($1.50) Hero is BN with K K
UTG folds, MP raises to $2.50, CO folds, Hero raises to $8.00, 2 folds, MP calls $5.50
Flop ($17.50) Q 2 2
MP checks, Hero bets $5.48, MP calls $5.48
Turn ($28.46) Q 2 2 8
MP checks, Hero bets $14.87, MP calls $14.87
River ($58.20) Q 2 2 8 Q
MP bets $36.99 and is all in, Hero

28/17 OP FRI 25% from mp/ fold vs 3bet 50% overall (300hands)
Postflop: fold vs cbet over 50%; turn fold high too. Seems weakpassive 2 tabler

28% pot odds on the river, hard to think about any bluffs(maybe AJdd). Value range Qx, probably not super many if doesnt call offsuit KQ,QJ.

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Samu Patronen 5 years, 6 months ago

Yeah it really looks like Qx trying to get value from KK/AA since you'd probably check those back if he checked. Stats are helpful too because the guy is clearly tilting towards being passive in general.

IluxaVag 5 years, 5 months ago

I have question. Why do you bet so small on the flop, Ok if you bet 3/4 of pot he will call with any Qx, JJ, TT, 99. If you bet small he will call the same range. I mean I don't see any reason to bet smaller. Also I would bet on the turn to get value from Qx.

Jeff_ 5 years, 5 months ago

Cant follow a bit. He will for sure call wider vs 1/3 than 2/3. And 1/3 allow us to bet much wider range ( 88-TT really prefer small bet, AJ/AK type of stuff as well). Betting 1/2 is fine too, 3/4 seems too big and leave akward spr on the turn/river

IluxaVag 5 years, 5 months ago

Jeff can you say me, what his calling range looks like if you bet 1/3 of pot. But i got your point to increase his calling range. But here we have KK and we don't afraid his strong calling range, his strong calling range it's Jx

Jeff_ 5 years, 5 months ago

basically any pair/pp, and AJs+ -ATs I guess. Flop is quite good so betting 1/2 might be even better.
If he was 100bb, I like 1/2 size, but because he is not full stack I prefer to bet smaller to give him more room for mistakes (overcall or overfold, followed by turn errors) and bet most of my range and not worry that if I get raised I'm capped.

IluxaVag 5 years, 5 months ago

Yep sounds good. Especially i like your fougths about to give him opportunity to make mistakes about overfilling and overcalling. I mean you know you said good point, but also i want to add like you said he is short so probably he is fish, and vs fish you don't have to think so deep. I mean you think like range vs range, as i think like range vs my hand. I know that our good strategy about betting should be balance vs our value range and bluff range, i mean good ration. But in game it's very difficult to think. Also can you recommend some good books about poker. I read some. But maybe you can give some advice.

Jeff_ 5 years, 5 months ago

vs recs no need to be balance that much, but generally 1/3 in 3 bets pots work quite well vs them.Obviously with KK we don't care so much which size to choose because all should be quite similar EV, but with our range I like small sizing, and will use it with 88, AK as value hands.

About strategy, I don't know last book I read was Matthew Juanda book ''Applications of No-limit holdem'' or something like that. Nowadays strategy book seems outdated to me. Watching videos here can give you good baseline and after you improve by working with solver, excel sheets, notepad....

Good mental book is Jared Tandler book, I woudn't mind rereading it again because a lot of value there

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