NL100 Triple this or give up?
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NL100 Triple this or give up?
BN: $51
SB: $375.50
BB: $86.60
UTG: $116.63 (Hero)
HJ: $232.97
CO: $100
SB: $375.50
BB: $86.60
UTG: $116.63 (Hero)
HJ: $232.97
CO: $100
SB is 26/20 over 563 hands. Fold to c-bet 32/17/0. 3-bet of 7.4%
CO is 25/16 over 89 hands. Fold to c-bet 100/-/-
CO is 25/16 over 89 hands. Fold to c-bet 100/-/-
Preflop
($1.50)
(6 Players)
Hero was dealt
T
J
Hero raises to $3, HJ calls $3, CO folds, BN folds, SB calls $2.50, BB folds
Hero raises to $3, HJ calls $3, CO folds, BN folds, SB calls $2.50, BB folds
Flop
($10.00)
5
5
9
(3 Players)
SB checks,
Hero bets $6.50,
HJ folds,
SB calls $6.50
I should probably just give up here since I only have a BDSD on an already paired board, without a BDFD... but I do block some of the hands that are going to call me here like TT/JJ and my range looks strong since I'm UTG.
Turn
($23.00)
5
5
9
2
(2 Players)
SB checks,
Hero bets $15.50,
SB calls $15.50
Looks like a bad card to 2-barrel but I'm UTG and I'd expect 66-88 to have maybe called flop and will now told to a really strong 2-barrel. I don't see many 5's in SB's flatting range but it's possible he has a few more since MP called pre.
River
($54.00)
5
5
9
2
5
(2 Players)
SB checks
We miss completely but have no SDV. The three 5's reduce villain's value combos significantly down to 4 combos of A5s and 3 combos of 99. I block TT/JJ which would call the river. And I don't block any spades, which villain could have potentially peeled flop and turn with that are now folding river, such as T9ss, 98ss, ATss, AJss, AQss, KQss
If I had JJ+ I would definitely be betting this river, and QQ-AA can't be in SB's range.
What do you guys think. Should I fire?
If I had JJ+ I would definitely be betting this river, and QQ-AA can't be in SB's range.
What do you guys think. Should I fire?
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I don't mind the cbet since we can potentially double barrell any 8 - K and we have 6 outs vs his most likely hands. I'd just give up this turn though. We have a lot of BDFD's, A3s/A4s 67s/78s that we probably want to barrel here so adding in no equity hands seems unnecessary.
As played I'd give up river. I actually think it's more likely villain flats QQ here pre than 3bets, and potentially sometimes KK/AA but ignoring that still gives him about 22combos he can call river with. If we bet we 40 we need him to fold around 19combos, Im stuggling to think of 19 he would call turn/fold river with, unless he calls turn with 66-88... his river fold to cbet stat at 0% is still pretty off putting though. That paired with his turn ftcbet is more reason would should probably never double barrel a 0 equity hand vs this guy.
I think JTs here should fall under my "barrel flop, but give up OTT unless we get a good card to barrel on" range. And the 2s is pretty much the worst card in the deck to 2-barrel. So at that point, I should put it under my turn check/fold range.
Thinking in terms of dropping hands into these action buckets/silos is something I need to be doing more actively. And responses like this are what I need to remind myself to do this.
So thanks for the insight, okaygo. Very much appreciated.
you have 100% cb on flop from UTG again 2ppl?
I guess if I'm c-betting JThh on this board you're right to assume I'm betting close to 100% of my range. Perhaps it's too high and I need to tone down to the 955r flops that have 1 or 2 hearts in them.
Valid point ondrej. Looking back bdon I just realised it was hijack that called you, originally thought it was co as you typed that next to your stats :p definitely not cbetting now! hijack cc range vs utg is usually very strong. I think I still prefer a cbet with JTss more so than like 66-88 though.
Like other said I think it is a give up OTF.
Regarding river action, against the range that you assigned for him it is IMO best to fire one more, we represent strong holding and have all PPs in our range. I dont see many player over calling QQ here, perhaps it is happenenig on other limits and as said you block TT/JJ.
Im giving up flop, but if I dont im most definitely giving up the turn.
river is interesting and really just depends on if you think he knows how to fold an overpair here. So betsize just depends on that as well. It actually kinda sucks you block JJ/TT here tho, because thats more combos of hands hell fold if he knows how to fold.
I think this is a decent spot to fire the 3rd barrel vs a reasonable reg. we opened utg so we don't have too much airy hands and we have a lot of over pairs to value bet. A reg knows this is an ugly card for us to bluff. We theoretically have to bluff here sometimes and I'm struggling to think of a better hand to do it with.
We are going to check back for sd value a decent amount with our AK AQ on the flop. We block JJ and TT which I agree with op are good hands to block here as I think these are the top of his possible c/c river range (although I also think he could have QQ).
We are targeting to fold out 66-88 any possible 9s in his range. Light peels with AK or AQ or some other float that picked up spades on the turn. And we block very little of this range.
Not ecstatic about it but if we are tripling anything here it should probably be this. We should have a lot of value in our range here so we have to bluff sometimes.
Oh and turn barrel is a bit questionable
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