NL 400 runner runner Khigh flush vs jam OTR
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NL 400 runner runner Khigh flush vs jam OTR
Blinds: $2.00/$4.00 (5 Players)
BN: $417.33
SB: $824.52
BB: $400.00 (Hero)
UTG: $400.00
CO: $654.93
SB: $824.52
BB: $400.00 (Hero)
UTG: $400.00
CO: $654.93
UTG and CO are very good regs
Preflop
($6.00)
Hero is BB with
K
5
, , ,
Flop
($32.00)
5
9
J
, ,
Turn
($32.00)
5
9
J
4
, ,
River
($91.86)
5
9
J
4
3
, ,
I think that my size its OK maybe i can go smaller because i dont have a lot of bluff.
I have 2nd nut and i m pretty up in my range but there arent a lot of bluff (maybe AhJx or AhAx)
std call?
I ended up calling after thinking all my time bank
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Very annoying spot. I'm always calling, but I'm not thrilled about it. Our river sizing looks weak and it might induce him to shove with bluffs.
yeah std call, also for your size=)
If you say both UTG and CO are regs + you're on the BB (also a reg), he might not be opening all AXs (AXhh in this spot), cause he's going to have tough time playing them vs good players.
Also, he might CB them, at least some % of the time, planning to multibarrel.
I can see him calling the turn with a AhKx/AhQx type of hand, planning to XRAI heart rivers.
Your sizing also looks weak, which might make him even more inclined to do so. It's also good that we have a hand like K5hh as opposed to, say, KQhh (more potential bluffs in his range).
All that said, I'd call it off, not even close.
I dont think MP call a pot size bet w a player behind w AhKx o AhQx
and i think that vs MP cc range and BB the flop its not so good for him so he cant cbet a lot
(this is why the hands that can turn in to a bluff are mostly AhJx) maybe with AA he will call vs my river size
I think if v has suited wheel cards here, he should raise this turn often for balance. Maybe with bare Ah+J/Q/K he calls w showdown value or to shove any heart river you bet.
Call and move on
It seems strange to raise suited wheel draws on the turn for balance when villain can really only rep 44 in his value range. Turn seems like even moreso of a call with that range when there's another player behind, imo.
Well, its cheaper to just call, hit the hand and be well disguised. If you call here you rep more legit hands like medium pp, maybe weak jx hands which you wont even consider raising OTT.
Looks like the nuts, feels like the nuts. I'd bet it was the nuts.
Incredibly easy call.
what … peel K5s pre vs UTG is std at 400?
Going 3way, closing the action, 2,5x open, suited K-high hand. It is pretty standard
Still, one of those " I have an postflop edge" justified preflop call ;), if an amatuer does it, its considered bad handselection, if Tom Dwan or some popular pro does it it becomes genius. A good price shouldnt be the main reason to see a flop. A postflop skilledge only brings you to a certain point.
Who said anything about postflop edge? I don't think you even need a postflop edge to call this.
Yes, and how you gonna win longterm OOP vs 2 opponents with a dominated hand and no initiative? Flushes dont come around that often and bluffing post is close to impossible here.
Well it's obviously a very complicated thing to explain, but I do think that we can call this. We're getting over 4:1 and we close the action, suited hands play well in this spot. K is also a high card, which means that our top pair is often good and our flushes are often good.
When defending big blind, it's ok to have a "disadvantage", because of our great odds preflop and the fact that we are guaranteed to see the flop relatively cheaply.
Why bluffing is "close to impossible" here?
Yeah, you might be right, Samu. When I said bluffing is impossible i meant we have hardly a donk leading range on any board against two, will x/fold flop against a c-bet rather often or wont have enough reason to fire turns when both check twice.
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