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NL 25 JTs BTN Multiway

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NL 25 JTs BTN Multiway

Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players) BN: $28.60 (Hero)
SB: $50.58
BB: $31.07
UTG: $32.94
MP: $27.25
CO: $40.89
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is BN with T J
UTG raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.75, SB folds, BB calls $0.50
Flop ($2.35) 7 8 J
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $1.50, BB raises to $5.75, UTG folds, Hero calls $4.25
Turn ($13.85) 7 8 J A
BB bets $4.63, Hero calls $4.63
River ($23.11) 7 8 J A 4
BB checks, Hero bets $17.47 and is all in, BB calls $17.47

Some help with this spot

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Samu Patronen 5 years, 7 months ago

I'd bet smaller on the flop or check. In multiway pots you're supposed to put in less money on average, so we should be much more conservative with hands such as this and polarize our range and/or use smaller sizes when we bet.

Villain is basically repping a set, straight or air, maybe some two pair sometimes. Againts this range I'm not very eager to bluff, because we have a hard time making him fold hands that we beat and we actually have some showdown value to check.

2s1ck4w0rdz 5 years, 7 months ago

Do you have any stats on villain?

Preflop i think i prefer a 3bet or fold. As played, BB is getting a very good price to join along as well, which he does. This hand has lots of potential and plays well in a 3bet pot, but i prefer to get HU vs the initial raiser.

As played, the c-bet seems fine. Agree with Samu, sizing could b a bit smaller. When he check raises you, his range becomes pretty polarized and is weighted towards hands that have you beat, or have better equity than you. Think sets, open enders, flush draws, AJ, KJ, two pairs etc. Think i would look at his flop AF here to consider my next move. Giving up seems too weak tho, the call looks fine.

His turnbet is really small tho, did you consider check raising him here? Peeling here is fine. But not a lot of rivers you cold move forward with imo.

River i would just check behind. You have showdown value. What are you trying to accomplish with this shove? You're only getting called by better.

belrio42 5 years, 7 months ago

I'm afraid you will not get much help by just posting a hand history and asking for comments. On the internet, everyone and their uncle has an opinion.

You should list your ranges and Villain's (estimated) ranges at the very minimum. Any reads, stats etc. will be helpful as well. See this post for details.

In general, I would bet smaller on flop or check. Check river.

robbo 5 years, 7 months ago

Such a wierd spot. Im probably just folding to the flop checkraise tbh. As played, turn his size makes no sense, this really looks like ATs A9s, TQ,TKs to me and i dont think he is sizing his sets/straights this way very often.
River i have no big opinions if you should checkback or jam, his line is just so wieeeeerd. Would like to se a checkback, but i think i spew this in game ^^

DNegs98 5 years, 7 months ago

So first off you should be betting smaller and with a tighter range in multiway pots so I don't particularly like the flop action. Also no one is capped yet so you are very likely to get raised and put in a tough spot as UTG is going to check some strong hands OOP on a board that hits the pre flop callers range so hard although multiway they do need to protect their overpairs significantly more than they would have to if the BB folded pre.

The BB raise is super strong with UTG behind and you betting large into a multiway pot so I'm kind of already hating life here but I think with the gutshot and backdoor flushdraw we have the equity to continue.

Turn it's a bit of a bad card for us, we're going to have hit top pair with a few nut flush draws and the occasional 2 pair but overall it devalues our overpairs and a lot of our Jx hands which are going to make up most of our range. I think though against this small sizing we have to continue.

On the river I'm assuming you're turning your hand into a bluff but I'm just not sure what you expect to fold here, players at 25nl are not capable of folding 2 pair and everything worse than 2 pair you're beating because they won't have KJ/QJ in this line and their Ax should all be spade nut flush draws which got there so I actually don't think you're folding anything with this bet that's better than your hand, primarily because villain will not realise his range is super strong and he can let a few hands go. I don't hate it against a thinking player who understand the ranges that are getting to this spot and will ditch stuff like their 87. This is near the bottom of your range here considering spades and 65 got there so you really don't have any missed draws so I'm fine turning it into a bluff (and the T blocker is nice even if not as relevant as a spade). If this shove was for value I really disagree with it just for the record but I'm assuming that wasn't the case.

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