NL 10 FAST - JJ 3 way on monoflop
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NL 10 FAST - JJ 3 way on monoflop
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10 (6 Players)
BN: $32.45
SB: $11.78
BB: $24.31 (Hero)
UTG: $10.18
MP: $13.79
CO: $6.28
SB: $11.78
BB: $24.31 (Hero)
UTG: $10.18
MP: $13.79
CO: $6.28
Preflop
($0.15)
Hero is BB with
J
J
, , , , ,
Flop
($1.50)
4
9
3
, , , , , ,
Turn
($8.10)
4
9
3
T
,
HI
CO FISH
SB REG
PRE:
Decided to flat to let fish join the pot.
FLOP:
I didnt stab flop, but now i am thinking that without spade maybe i should had to do it ?
Anyways after, fish stabed and reg only called i thought that i need some protection because fish might be still weak and reg looks totally weak for sure.
TURN:
Easy AI on no spade.
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Preflop is probably fine but I personally prefer to just 3bet or fold most hands when OOP.
Flop raise is no good and it's already close to a fold after there is a bet and a call. You will frequently be up against, pair+spade, flush, set or two overcards and a spade (i.e. a situation you will either have slightly more than 0EV against the two other players hands or be way behind). It's really important to have redraw potential if behind in those situations. The reg can also have QQ+ quite frequently. Thin value raises are usually a bad idea on monotone flops. Turn I would also shove with like 1/3 pot bet left but raising into two strong ranges with a big size OTF means you'll often be behind OTT.
You said reg can also have QQ+ quite frequently, how did you assume this ? What he did was only a standard iso of fish.
I only use standard logic/math and awareness of ranges. Don't know what you deem a standard iso of fish but lets say it's 20% and QQ+ is 18 combos. So 18/1200 combos is around 1,5% of all hands on that flop and around 7,5% of a 20% range. It's not unreasonable to check entire range OOP to two players on mono flop and facing half pot not closing the action it's reasonable to fold around 60% or more. 7,5%/0,4 is around 19% of range that calls the cbet.
I would say 19% of range being QQ+ is having QQ+ quite frequently and I don't think I made any assumptions that's out of line.
I actually don't mind raising flop(smaller tho), it is really putting pressure on a reg, where he pretty much have to play face up and tight. If rec shoves I would happily fold, if calls -value shove good turns. (All what I've said applies to unknown or known non passive weak player)
Pre-flop - 3-bet small and linear.
Flop - Check/Call is best option. Pretty big mistake to raise here.
So you totally ignore the option to let fish in, how would you explain it ?
You don't want to allow fish in the pot when you have big hands. You want to allow fish in the pot with hands that have okay EV but make very strong hands frequently. eg suited connectors which make straights and flushes, suited Ax/Kx which will make strong flushes, small pocket pairs that make sets.
This hand is too strong and too vulnerable to slowplay. It generally doesn't improve to better than one pair and therefore you want it heads-up when possible.
That makes sense. Thank's :)
Bet/fold OTF, because value from every club, pair,,9x etc. from the fish and some Ac,Kc from SB.
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